Rob mentioned that there seems to be few finds posted so after getting a new password .!! I have been using the white 12 by 10 sef and really liking it . I have been working a waterfront on some collapsed pier structures . The ground is covered with iron. If I go all metal it sounds like the needle going across a record.(I wonder what percent here have actually heard that?).I use relic with recovery down to 45 and gain at 6 or 7. Targets are usually 3 to 4 inches on top of clay. A super slow sweep and digging everything .Goldbill