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The best "trash searching" metal detector?
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silversmith
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Well I've written about this before, but here we go again. My old black Technetics Big Bud Pro Select 220-D, here to fore known as the thang, is marvelous in trashy areas. I have all three coils (4, 8, 10.5") all concentric (they discriminate better than others). I set it up, in these horrible areas to keep most rings and set the "Blanker" to 2". Oh yeah, kiss all strong targets good bye, 20 dollar gold pieces underneath Big Hunk wrappers.....adios, but the weaker signals down below start being detected. When I get in really really bad areas I set the "Blanker" to 4". Old Thang just kinda hunkers down and starts coughin' out the goodies. Now while doing this you're watching the digital readout for depth and target I.D.. You may have to change coils and move slower, but it'll be worth it. Now maybe I made it a little Rosier than really it is, 
but Ol' Thang gives me an edge. I'll take an edge anytime. Now I've read some folks dissing Blankers, ain't worth a clad-dime in a Holler fulla silver dollars. But I like mine. I guess I'd better go get my cast iron helm on and get ready for the hailstorm. 
but Ol' Thang gives me an edge. I'll take an edge anytime. Now I've read some folks dissing Blankers, ain't worth a clad-dime in a Holler fulla silver dollars. But I like mine. I guess I'd better go get my cast iron helm on and get ready for the hailstorm. You bargain a tough question since my first thoughts are to switch to a small coil for trash areas. Since I get into trash areas more often than not, I use small coils more than the stock coils.
Now since you said stock coils for trash (not depth) and I like small coils for trashy areas - I have no problems grabbing my Compadre with 5.75 hardwired coil.
Although it doesn't have the bells & whistles like my Ex-II, F-75, Vision V3 etc., the Compadre has a spot for me. Although I have small coils for all my other detectors, the stock is bigger and bigger is not always my choice for trash.
Now since you said stock coils for trash (not depth) and I like small coils for trashy areas - I have no problems grabbing my Compadre with 5.75 hardwired coil.
Although it doesn't have the bells & whistles like my Ex-II, F-75, Vision V3 etc., the Compadre has a spot for me. Although I have small coils for all my other detectors, the stock is bigger and bigger is not always my choice for trash.
I guess I was thinking "discriminating" metal detector-which one was the best-and that's the reason I mentioned the Tracker models. It's almost as if they're seeing "thru" the trash and finding the coins-which I call it's high tone propensity.
Now that's just the first word that popped into my mind when I was considering writing a paper on the machine and I don't mean to sound know-it-all. I know it's a plastic-coated, oversized, toy-looking contraption and I also know the electronics could be put on a board 1/3 the size it is now 'cause they had the same circuit on the Tecknetics Road Runner-they just had a trimmer that split the tones at zincers. And like a lot of dectectorists, they aren't that crazy about promoting the thing-I've already been told by one techie that the only reason they keep it is 'cause it works and some people like it. But if anyone can find one at the garage sales I would urge you to get one and at least try it with the tones set as I described earlier. It absolutely blows my mind how underrated and ignored this machine is.
Now that's just the first word that popped into my mind when I was considering writing a paper on the machine and I don't mean to sound know-it-all. I know it's a plastic-coated, oversized, toy-looking contraption and I also know the electronics could be put on a board 1/3 the size it is now 'cause they had the same circuit on the Tecknetics Road Runner-they just had a trimmer that split the tones at zincers. And like a lot of dectectorists, they aren't that crazy about promoting the thing-I've already been told by one techie that the only reason they keep it is 'cause it works and some people like it. But if anyone can find one at the garage sales I would urge you to get one and at least try it with the tones set as I described earlier. It absolutely blows my mind how underrated and ignored this machine is.Hey Shambler
I believe that is Jerry Talley with a Bill Lahr custom detector, Bill Lahr had a hand designing the Whites Classic series of detectors, espeacially the meter on the Classic ID and IDX Pro. This test can be replicated with one of these fine White's units. They just have to be purchased used, since they are not being made anymore.
I believe that is Jerry Talley with a Bill Lahr custom detector, Bill Lahr had a hand designing the Whites Classic series of detectors, espeacially the meter on the Classic ID and IDX Pro. This test can be replicated with one of these fine White's units. They just have to be purchased used, since they are not being made anymore.
NiagracountyNY
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E_trac hands down.They pull so much silver from iron /trash drenched sites it speaks for itself.HH
I was gonna say something like that Hombre. I just got one of the Classic ID's and in the short time I've used it, I can see the potential.Hombre said:
I've used mine so far with only the stock 8" coil, as per the OP's specification. I'm impressed with it's separation, and in contrived tests so far, it gave good audio on a dime even when placed UNDER a large nail.
But of even more benefit, is its stability in iron laden trash. Even at low DISC/ high SENS settings, it remains stable and you can generally expect 2"-3" separation on a good target from iron in the real world.
Whites still offers the Classic, as the new Classic ID5. It has a slightly different frequency from the originals, which is insignificant. This was done, I suspect, to take advantage of the coils from the newer White's detectors. In all other respects it is the same detector, as far as I know, which is a very good thing.
However, the larger, broader coverage "new" coils suggest it's performance in trash won't be as good as the originals.
Like Hombre says, you gotta get a used one if you want one of those.
I have a couple of sites that if you dig a 12" wide - 8" deep plug, you will normally see 4 modern nails in the top 4" and 4 square nails in the next 4". I went at it with my Explorer and got a couple of nice finds just by digging anything that wasn't iron. My F75 was so unstable below "10" disc that it was inoperable. So at "10" disc I got clipped high tones everywhere. I actually walked over a Barber dime because that tone was the same as the falses. Those experiences bring me to my question - do these old analog units false on iron as well?
Hi David
The Classic 5ID is a Kellyco exclusive, made by White's for them. It has a operating freq. of 8.1 kHz and will accept all prizm coils including the 4X6 shooter coil that came about with the 6T prizm. I would'nt mind having the Classic 5ID with the shooter coil, I'll just wait for a screamer of a deal on one of those.
The Classic 5ID is a Kellyco exclusive, made by White's for them. It has a operating freq. of 8.1 kHz and will accept all prizm coils including the 4X6 shooter coil that came about with the 6T prizm. I would'nt mind having the Classic 5ID with the shooter coil, I'll just wait for a screamer of a deal on one of those.
silversmith
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I've owned maybe 15 detectors through the years. The best, at their time were Compass Judge 2, Tesoro Golden Sabre, Garrett GTA 1000, and my beloved Big Bud 220-d, bought out by Technitics, later by Bounty Hunter, I believe. I wouldn't be suprised if you opened up some B.H. units, you find some Big Bud guts in 'em 
This is just my opinion, I'll deny I ever said it. And, that's the truth!
This is just my opinion, I'll deny I ever said it. And, that's the truth!Hi Shambler
I can think of several analog machines that will fill the bill in the iron, The White's Classic series, including Classic ID, IDX, IDX Pro, and with the Mr. Bills mod they become even better detectors. Also the Tesoro non-metered detectors are very good in the iron. I have some of the early Tesoros, with manual G/B that are really good in the nail beds. These machines require a slow & low sweep speed, they may clic and sputter a bit in the iron nails, But you will hear the good beeps in between the little clics or rejected signals. For the most part they run very smooth and quiet in the naily places.
I can think of several analog machines that will fill the bill in the iron, The White's Classic series, including Classic ID, IDX, IDX Pro, and with the Mr. Bills mod they become even better detectors. Also the Tesoro non-metered detectors are very good in the iron. I have some of the early Tesoros, with manual G/B that are really good in the nail beds. These machines require a slow & low sweep speed, they may clic and sputter a bit in the iron nails, But you will hear the good beeps in between the little clics or rejected signals. For the most part they run very smooth and quiet in the naily places.
I thought so, a re-mod to take advantage of a new lineup. Thanks for that clarification.Hombre said:
But remember, if you will, the OP wanted a stock coil on a stock instrument. No after market, extra coils for his scenario.
That said, the big honkin' spoker on the new Prizms ought to leave him flat.
SO now Im wondering how the new Prizms actually perform. Did Wite's add to the state of the art with them, or just get on the featherweight, digi-tector bandwagon?
(I do like featherweights, you know. Ever since I tried a Tesoro uMax and got my hands on a Fisher F70, I've been hooked. Maybe that is a question for the proper forum...)