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THE REPORTS ARE IN - THE AT PRO IS THE MOST AWESOME DETECTOR EVER BUILT...

Some of you seem to have doubts about its beach performance compared
to multi-frequency machines. I would say that this new detector would,
no doubt, have some new zippy microcontroller at its heart, and therefore
presumably Garrett have written new software routines for the machine
to analyse the single frequency signal. If it can isolate a coin lying
next to a rusty nail then the new software must be truly impressive.
Therefore it should in theory work pretty well at the beach, but we'll
just have to wait for the reviews to know for sure. regards.
 
I've done a lot of reading on the new AT Pro and it is going to be a great addition to the Garrett line. I don't know if it will live up to all the hype, but it has many of the features that I have wished for in the Garrett lineup. The main thing that catches my eye is the reduced weight. I loved my GTI 2500, but it killed my back due to an old back injury. So I had to go to another brand that was much lighter. And the one thing I missed most was that nice lady on treasure talk who always kept me company! :cheekkiss: I am presently swinging another brand that is lighter than my GTI 2500, but I am still a garrett fan and will probably migrate back after I see the AT Pro in use a little while after it's introduction. I sure hope it's what it claims to be as I would love to be back in the fold. Onus
 
Tony in FL said:
garrettlover said:
I doubt whether or not it's good in salt water will matter too much.

You are joking - right? This is one of the most asked questions I have heard coming up in forums. I suspect how well this detector handles wet sand and and salt water at the beach could make or break the sale to a large number of beach hunters.
You being from a salt water beach area you think that if it is not good for salt water work it will not go over big........ But there are more like me than salt water hunters that almost never see a salt water beach...........So we don't really care how it works on a salt water beach...
 
Yeah the engineers are testing it at the beach as we speak and tweaking it for saltwater hunting so that problem ( if there ever was one ) will be ironed out. Garrett is making sure they cover all the bases on this one. It's going to be a real doozy.

Bill.
 
Yeah land hunters far outnumber beach hunters by the thousands so its saltwater performance ain't going to sway sales one way or another but Garrett is going out of their way to satisfy everybody anyway.

Bill
 
Uncle Willy said:
Yeah the engineers are testing it at the beach as we speak and tweaking it for saltwater hunting so that problem ( if there ever was one ) will be ironed out. Garrett is making sure they cover all the bases on this one. It's going to be a real doozy.

Bill.

Bill are you saying that Garrett engineers are redesigning the specifications of the AT to better handle saltwater hunting? It seems VERY late in the game to be going through a technical redesign. In order to hit the target of availability in November I would have thought that the manufacturing process would have already been in full swing by now. If a redesign is done at this point it seems substantial testing, and therefore a delay in the release schedule, would be in order. And what about all of the units that may have already been manufactured without the saltwater "tweaks"? Is there going to be a V1 (available in November) and a V2 (perhaps available at a later date)?
 
I have a minelab , but that AT pro might be my next detector.
 
The ATPro will be my next machine. That is unless Charlie brings out another machine? I was all ready to pull the trigger on a 350 - then the ATPro leaked out.
 
Alll I know is they told me the engineers were at the coast tweaking the AT. Nothing said about redesign. I'm sure everything is on schedule but with the huge demand you can probably expect late deliveries and such. The distributors are even having trouble keeping 350's in stock.

Bill
 
you have got that wright Mick,
this sounds like a top detector for all conditions
Garrett might have done it
love the price :thumbup: USA
 
Hi Bill,
It's been a long time since I posted here,
But I just had to comment to counteract the knockers and unbelievers.:thumbdown:

We are salt beach hunters and have pre- ordered our AT Pro Internationals. :twodetecting:

The reasons for doing so are -

1. DD coils designed to ignore mineralisation. :clapping:

2. Manual GB should eliminate any more mineralisation. :garrett::cheers:

3. If we can use the Ace 250 on wet salt with a factory preset GB,
surely the AT Pro must give us some advantage and extra depth in said environment.
 
not sure if this question has been asked ,, which one will be available in Australia,,the ATpro or the international,,,i know we are international but do we follow US soil or europe soils
 
I have no experience with Garrett detectors, so no axe to grind.
I did own a propointer and was impressed with it.
I don't understand how you arrived at the title of this thread when there are so many unanswered questions about this detector.
If it is already the most awesome ever made, what will it be when we have all the answers?
 
Dont get to uptight up about the title of this thread....it was partly in gest....(A playful or amusing act; a prank. A frolicsome or frivolous mood: spoken in jest. A witty remark.) AND partly in excitement and partly serious.

He had just talked to people that were at the demo at the Garrett factory and was basically repeating the excitment over the demo from the reports he got.

Lighten up a bit.

Alan
 
One thing that concerns me about the AT Pro. I've never been much of a Garrett fan but I've heard enough people rave about the depth of the Treasure Ace 250 to know it's got better depth than a lot of other machines on the market, at least when the minerals aren't too bad. I always thought finally Garrett has made a machine that can get down there in terms of depth at some sites. Along comes the AT Pro and I'm thinking that they must have built on the success of the 250. Well, after a little reading I see the Treasure Ace 250 is 6.5khz. That's good, because frequencies around that range and lower will hit hardest on silver/copper (my primary target) and also in general penetrate ground minerals better than a higher frequency. Well, I see the AT Pro is 15khz. While that's going to give it better gold sensitivity I don't want to trade off depth in high minerals or sensitivity to silver/copper coins myself. I always looked at it this way- When I'm gold ring hunting on land it's not as important to dig holes 12" deep in hopes of a gold ring (only to find a piece of trash), but when it comes to silver or copper coins I want all that extra depth ability to find them. There are plenty of shallow "junk" pull tab and other signals to dig that might be gold rings, but there aren't too many shallow "silver" signals to go after these days. Translation- Why build a machine that is going to be more sensitive to gold than it is silver/copper coins at depth? I wish they would have stuck with the same frequency of the TA 250. Had they done that I might have considered adding the AT Pro to my line up of machines. I like the screen and the fact that it's water proof. Looks like I'll be looking more into the Omega and T2LTD, as well as the F75LTD. Yes, some of those are high frequency machines too but at least they have the solid reputation of getting deep, which is yet to be proven either way with the AT Pro.
 
Dave Johnson, who is the designer of the Omega 8000, said that current detectors don't rely much on frequency. But having owned a T2 for 3 years and an Omega 8000 for two months, hands down the Omega is a better coin machine. Now, Tom Dankowski says even with the higher frequency the Fisher F75LTD will go deeper on silver than the Omega, due to it's high overpowering gain (or something like that). But the tradeoff is that it is noisy.

The AT Pro is supposed to be twice as deep as the Ace 250, which I find impossible but one never knows. I am really excited to see the reports of this unit. If they are good I will surely look into buying one. But, it's got to be on par with my Omega for coins. I don't hunt for gold and most of the old coins here in Germany have copper in them and a few have silver, so the lower frequency is working well for me. That said, it's not about the money with the Omega. I want the best coin machine for what I hunt and so far it is it. I'm not going to pay twice the amount for an extra 1" of depth that the F75LTD gives (on coins, deeper on relics). Now, if a high end (and fast - not minelab) coin machine comes out and it gets 3" more depth than my Omega, then I'll put down a lot more money.

I have a feeling the AT Pro has a very fast processor in it, so it should do well around trash and in iron. Good luck Garrett, it's time for you guys to come out with a generally excepted winner. (I know your other high end machines are good, but they never really took off it seems.)
 
This is the response I received from Garrett when I asked about using the AT Pro in salt water.

Hi Bob,



Like any VLF detector, the AT Pro is not specifically designed for saltwater operation. However, a VLF can operate reasonably well on the wet beach when adjusted accordingly.



The AT Pro will be even better than most other VLF detectors due to the AT
 
bearkat4160 said:
Dont get to uptight up about the title of this thread....it was partly in gest....(A playful or amusing act; a prank. A frolicsome or frivolous mood: spoken in jest. A witty remark.) AND partly in excitement and partly serious.

He had just talked to people that were at the demo at the Garrett factory and was basically repeating the excitment over the demo from the reports he got.

Lighten up a bit

Alan

Upright? I asked a question, not to you, but the original poster. I took what he said at face value.

Face value, the value of a stamp, coin or security as provided by the issuer.

Thanks for clearing up that he simply parrots what the manufacturer tells him, and offers nothing in the way of actual hands on testing.

Tony
 
If you go to the Sovereign forum and look down the first or second page you'll see a thread called something like Light Weight GT Pictures. There is info in there on how I made it so light. I've dropped almost a pound and a half over the stock unit, and I'm using a 12x10 coil. Mainly I used a whites tall man carbon fiber lower shaft ($10), a lighter weight gauge aluminum for my upper shaft cut down in length since the Whites tall man rod is very long, a 3 cell lipo battery, a Whites "heavy duty" arm cup (the stock GT arm cup weighs 8.8 ounces!), an aluminum bike end bar for a lighter and much more comfortable grip with rubber cover put on it, got rid of the coil cover and used spray on bed liner, and a few other minor things. The stock lower shaft is fiberglass and heavy, and the upper stock shaft is a real heavy gauge aluminum. Much stronger then you'd ever need, so I went to lighter stuff. My GT now feels as light or lighter than any machine I've ever owned. At least on par with my Whites. About the only thing I've owned that was lighter would of course be a Tesoro.

For the price of the AT Pro below I think $600 that's pretty good for a water proof detector. It's light enough to be used as a land machine, which can't be said about a lot of water units. Sure, they can be used on land but it's not too fun. Looks like that AT Pro might be a very good seller being a dual purpose machine like that, if it gets real good depth on silver on land and decent depth in the water on gold rings. I like the screen. I don't like that it only has 3 or 4 tones. After using my GT I can't handle a machine that doesn't have numerous multi tones. It makes hunting by ear so much more powerful and I only look at the meter to confirm what I think I hear when I want to. The adjustable iron rejection is nice. I love the fact that they give you the option to hear "unprocessed" audio versus just the "beep & dig" type response that I hate on so many machines, including the Explorers I've owned. Up until now the only machines I've owned that really gave in in depth audio details were certain Whites. My GT gives me that kind of finer audio detail, being long and drawn out to show you things about a target, yet it also has much more in the way of tones than a Whites...so thus far it's been the most telling machine audio wise I've ever owned. Where other machines speak with one or two "words" the Sovereign speaks in long sentences to clue you off to target traits. I'll have to listen to the AT and see how well it's audio is in comparison. It's so cheap that I may buy one down the road just for water hunting, though I'm more apt to buy an older Sovereign control box and stick that in a water proof control box. Since I already have coils for my GT I'd only need the box and an older model could probably be had for $50 to $70. All the Sovereigns for the most part get about equal depth, with some saying the GT is a bit deeper. It's a cheap way to build a water machine, and we all know the Excal/Sovereign is king of the beach in terms of handling black sand, salt, water, etc. I'll keep my eye on the AT Pro and decide down the road if I want to add it to my line up of machines.
 
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