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Toned up and went Exploring

Mick in Dubbo

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I have found that I've been barking up the wrong tree as far as using the Explorer goes, which has lead to a disappointing outcome so far with it. After rereading a post of advice from Hard nosed Dave (thanks Dave) I dusted of the XS at the end of last week and spent a couple of afternoon's waiving coins and other junk items over the coil and train my ears to properly distinguish the the difference in the tones of each item.After a couple of hours of this, my ears found it a lot easier to work out what the XS was telling me. I find that the screen to be fairly poor at giving information, so used it only as a confirmation as to what the tones tell me. I have now abandoned that smart find screen as a complete waste of time and only use the digital as a secondary source of information. Our modern coins read as $2 and $1=26, 50 cents=20, 20 cents=12, 10 cents=7 and 5 cents=3 on the digital screen.
After a bit of fine tuning, I finally arrived at the following set up. Sens@24, Iron mask off, sounds on conduct,tones set up as, th tone @4,variabiliy@8, limits@9.selected coins mode,response, normal,fast and deep off and gain@4 (I vary it a bit for better depth perception). For me, this set up seems to work best for getting the most out of the tone system. Over time, I may mix it up a bit more and see what happens.
Now for the Exploring bit.
I managed to get out for a few hunts over the week end. Saturday was the longest, with a 2 hour hunt at a local school (managed to bribe my way in there about 18 months back:)). This was a fairly clean site , and hunting with a different premise, certainly made me stand up and tack notice. Going after the smooth flatter sounding tones and only looking at the screen after I decided to dig, gave me quite a shock as to what the screen was saying. it was often off, sometime by a lot of numbers! the most extreme case, was a target that was giving a steady reading of 14! I used the depth meter to help centre the coil and the pocket probe to help with recoveries. After recovering this target, which must have been picked up under the outer ring, even after turning through 90 degrees, it was a 10 cent piece. All I can think of, is that because it wasn't centred, must have caused such an erroneous reading. $1 and $2 coins were coming in at anywhere from 24 to 28! One coin in particular jumped over all those numbers and wouldn't lock on to any. It gave a smooth flat tone, so I went for it. It was a $2 coin. It is the second coin from the left on the top row in the photo. this coin showed some minor corrosion (copper content) and I'm pretty sure that this was the cause of the bad reading. (The tones didn't get fooled.) I tested this coin at home with my Ace 250 and X-Terra 30. The Ace gave a solid reading and pinpoint, the X-Terra though, gave fluctuating numbers of 24 to 36, after many waives over the top, it finally locked onto 32, which is it's normal reading. it couldn't give a good pinpoint though and if I was in the field, I would have moved on and left it in the ground.
On Sunday, I got to hunt at the Show ground for about 45 mins. I had another $2 coin that bounced badly, but gave a smooth tone. It also showed some minor corrosion. On Monday ( had an RDO) I hunted the show ground and another park. I went after some junky sounding tones just to confirm what the XS was telling me. About 80% of the time, using the tones mostly hunting style, I was able to figure out, what was what.
Hopefully things will only improve from here.
Total for the week end, $21.35.
Mick Evans.
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well done good to see u figuring it out, see if u can borrow a terra 70 they are great on aussie coins especially the oldies.
 
Always audio first - quality headphones enhance the audio.
Usually the audio and display circuitry are not tied together.
Deep targets, audio can give a response and the display may be out of range due to it's limitations.
Display - ok for settings and depth readings on most coin objects - secondary tool for that - but audio is where it's at.
Audio :thumbup:
 
thanks fellas. actually; I've got a couple of friends ordering an X-Terra 70 later this week. Although I don't have much hands on experience personally, after reading that forum for the last couple of years, plus time spent with the 30, it should be fun to show them the ropes. It will also give me some time to get better acquainted with it.
Mick Evans.
 
Hey Mick ; I told you to hang in there and not sell the Explorer, glad to see your persevering. It took me me 6mths to come to grips with mine, all the time i was lamenting about trading in my sovereign, until one day it all started to click into place. I posted a message to Snowy, telling him to ignore the Ferrous no's on his Explorer. I have found $1and$2 coins coming at 31-31, so you are doing the right thing by going by the tones, and after a while you just get a 6th sense about it. Glad to see you are making headway. HH. Bob
 
I very nearly sold it a couple of weeks back. I was seriously thinking about getting a Garrett GTI from the Aussie importer. I offered the Explorer as a trade in, and he didn't want to take it. What was amazing, is that had asked me to write an article for Gem and Treasure mag about the Ace. I had written a couple of blurbs and sent him a bunch of photo's both for him and Garrett USA that were published in both countries last year. So I guess that he want be getting an article anytime soon and I'll get to enjoy the Explorer, now that I've got a better handle on it.:thumbup:
Mick Evans.
 
Year Mate, I just keep being amazed at what my unit pulls out of the ground, it just loves $1-2 coins. Iv'e dug $2 coins down to 10" in wet ground on the football fields, HH. Bob
 
Good going Mick!:thumbup:

You and Hungry seem to be mainly concentrating on our $1 and $2 goldies...

I gather you guys are interested in gold jewelry ~ rings etc too.
Now these targets are going to give sounds and TID readings way different to the goldies,
and give you random conductivity readouts on the TID...

It's not easy Hungry, when you say you have been getting $1 and $2 coins coming at 31-31!

One thing regarding Explorers ~ the sound seems near enough to real time, __ the display registers later...

Yep, I agree, theres a lot of sense giving sound first priority!:twodetecting:
 
Snowy, Just try digging some of those 30-31or 31-31 no.s you will be surprised, they are generally deep coins around 6 to 10 inches, and the sounds change to a softer tone, it,s a 6th sense thing. I built myself a special tool to dig them with, it's made from a piece of 11/2" diam stainless steel tube with the side cut away 10" long with a handle welded on, like a long thin scoop, makes very little mess, it's become my favorite tool . I'll take a photo and post it soon. HH Bob
 
Thanks for the tip on the jewellery Snowy. Yeah, I tend to go for modern coins. I'll have to have a crack at some pre-decimals soon. As I live inland, beach hunting for jewellery is pretty rare, although I have snagged 2 gold rings in lawn though, but that was with the Ace. On that, they sounded like coins.1 was 9 carat and 1 was 18 caret. Both on school grounds.
Cheers.
Mick Evans.
 
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