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Uncle Willie - My best buddy bout got ate!!!!

rglyons

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Try to eat me, you bad old coyote!!!! That'll teach ya!!!!

(P.S.) Coyotes did get our Rat Terrier. .223 took care of the problem.
It was about to get Skeeter!!!!!!
 
Hey Uncle Willie,good for you,that one wont be baggin on anybody or anybodys pals again!!!!!!!!!!!:clapping: H.H Kevin
 
Rat Terrier is a damn fine dog. I had one a while back. Loyal as can be and fearless for a little guy. Sorry you lost yours.

What model .223 do you use? I have a Ruger Mini-14. One of my favorite firearms.

Chris
 
I've got a New England (used to be H & R) .223 single shot with 22 inch bull barrel.
VERY accurate and versatile caliber!!!!!!!!!!!!
Always wanted a Ruger Mini 14 Ranch Rifle but never got around to getting one.
Stuck to .22's - .22 Marlin semi-auto, .22 Mag Marlin bolt action, and .223 New England single shot.
All can hit a quarter size target at 50 yards. (using a rest)
 
What ever happened to H&R. Many moons ago I owned an H&R 22 pistol. I'm partial to 22's. Got a Marlin, scoped, semi-auto. Ruger 22 Magnum convertible, A real old Sears bolt action, scoped 22 from the early forties ( a real tack driver ). Erma 22 ( baby Luger ) semi-auto pistol, Jennings 22 semi-auto pistol, Marlin 30-30 lever action, and my pride and joy - a mint U.S. Arms Abilene 357 on a 44 frame. I really want one of the Auto Mags in 22 Magnum or a 357 Auto Mag.

Bill
 
Uncle Willy,

New England arms bought them out. You can now get about any caliber barrel for your action, reasonably priced.
Only con about them is the trigger pull is a little excessive. (they will work on it for free when you send the action in to fit a new barrel.)
All my rifles are scoped, except the semi-auto.
I know one fella that has about six different caliber barrels for his New England action, including a black powder and shotgun barrel.
Know what you mean about an auto loading pistol - the only one I have now is a .380.
I had an Erma .22 semi-auto as a Luger replica too - wished I'd never traded it off. It's worth a bit now!!!!!
I'm wanting a .357 revolver to also use .38 specials for just shooting around. Not sure if it would use .38 shorts (less recoil and blast).
We live with our son on his 30 acre farm so shooting isn't a problem.
 
I hate to say it but you probably have a few more of his relatives out there who have been "trained" by mom and dad coyote. So don't let your guard down. Usualy a family of coyotes will "learn bad habits" from their parents and pass it on and on. So...keep vigalent! It may not be over.

Don
 
Hummm. I saw one of those the last time I was up there. I didn't know if they ever
tried to attack people or not. The one I saw ran in front of me on the back road
my property is on. I only got a quick look as he ran across the road from left
to right into the woods, but he was fairly hefty. Almost looked like a big German
Shepherd the way his coat looked. I've also seen a big black Jaguar about 1
mile from my place. Talk about getting your attention.. Of course, many people
think I've lost my mind and saw an overgrown house cat or something, but I
know what I saw. It was in the daytime and the thing was in the road right
in front of me. The thing was huge.. nearly Great Dane sized.. In fact, I thought
it was a dog until I started taking a look at it's square snout, etc.. Also the
way it ran into the woods was a clincher. It was for sure a big black Jag..
And I'm not the only one to see them up there. Others have too.
My property up there is about 5 miles SE of Eufaula. I'm about 2 miles
south of Highway 9 landing. I'm close to the lake, but not lake front.
Lots of varmints running around in those woods, and I'm usually alone
camping out there. Needless to say, I carry a pistol most all the time I'm
prowling around the woods. I've also had dog packs run through my place.
That made me pretty nervous, but they came into the clearing where I was
Bar-B-Qing, and made a quick U turn and ran back into the brush the same
way they came in. At a full run the whole time. I could hear them coming
through the brush before they got to me, and I ducked into my car and
closed the door. They seemed to ignore me, but maybe they didn't notice
me being I got into the car. I bet they smelled me though.
 
I'm usually carrying my .40 S&W which holds 15 rounds with one in the pipe.
Also carry an extra mag.. I have 4 mags for that pistol. Gives you a warm
fuzzy feeling when varmints come poking around. Two mags give me
nearly 30 rounds, which is comforting if I ran into a pack of dogs.
I usually have my 10-22 Ruger also, but I mainly just plink with it.
Camp pistol.. I use a mil-tec holster and gunbelt. Being as that's a
Glock clone, you want to make sure the holster covers the trigger well.
You can see the 2nd mag in the pocket..
mil-tec2.jpg
 
Where do you live? Jaguars are only found in Central America. You might have seen a very rare black cougar, also known as puma or mountain lion. The other animal you saw could have been a grey wolf. Once almost gone their numbers are now growing in certain areas. Some wolves can reach 200 pounds or more. There are exceptions in every breed. When I lived in Northern Idaho there were a lot of bear hunters there including my best friend. Black bears rarely reach more than 300-350 pounds but he knocked down what's known as a silver tip black bear that weighed over 600 pounds and stood over seven feet tall.

Bill
 
Yeah I use 125 grain hollow points in my 357, an extremely devastating load. My 22 mag with hollow points makes short work of some pretty hefty critters. I forgot I also have a 45 Derringer that shoots 410's loaded with triple O buck. There ain't much left of anything that gets smacked with that puppy but it's short ranged so used mainly for self defense.

Bill
 
That's why I say many think I've lost my mind... Most black jags are in Central America. Or so they say..
But... I think they could be slowly migrating, or maybe the one I saw was an abandoned pet.
But there is no doubt in my mind that it was a black Jaguar. I got a very good look at it, and when I
got back home I checked pictures of all the big cats. The only one that was a perfect match was the
black Jaguar.
I live in Houston, but that property is near Lake Eufaula in OK.
I saw it on the county road that leads into my place, and was about 1 mile from my
place when I saw it. I was coming back from a trip to the store in Eufaula.
There were plenty of Jaguars in OK years ago. But.. Most were the spotted variety, not black.
In the old days back in the late 1800's, they were seen and heard quite often. I've read letters
from that time where the settlers would hear them scream at night. They sound kind of like a
screaming women. I bet it makes the hair on the back of your neck stand up.. :/
It was not a cougar or a mountain lion. No way.. I know what they look like.
But also black versions of cougars are so rare as to be non-existent.
But the Jaguars have a dominant black gene, so they are not that rare.
Check this article for some info.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_panther
See that picture of one near the top.
That exactly what the one I saw looked like, except that the one I saw looked
even darker from the distance I saw it from. I imagine that the one I saw had the
rosettes like that one, but they were harder to see. The one I saw looked almost
solid jet black. But everything else was a perfect exact match to that one.
The snout was exactly the same, along with the appx size. This thing was big!

I considered that it might have been a jaguarundi, but I'm fairly sure it was not.
The jaguarundi is smaller, looks slightly different, and also the coat is slightly
reddish looking in most cases. So I ruled out the jaguarundi.
Another thing.. People claim that the black jags are only in Central America,
but Indians in North America were aware of these animals. So that means to
me they were here back in the 1700,1800's. The indians considered it almost
a separate breed of cat, and also considered it the most dangerous of all the
cats they encountered.
Anyway, I'm about 95% sure it was a large black Jaguar. Maybe home grown,
maybe a lost pet, but it was a jaguar. None of the pictures of other breeds
match what I saw.
As far as the coyote, I'm not so sure about it. I saw it only very briefly as it crossed
in front of me, so I'm much less sure about it. It could have been a wolf, but
I thought wolves had become quite scarce in that area, so thought it was
likely a coyote. It could have been a wolf. The coat from the side looked
kind of like a wolf. But hard to say..
I got a much better look at the cat, than I did the canine..
They had a monster quest show about black panthers a while back.
Two of the people they interviewed that claimed to see these were in
Oklahoma. They were a bit east of OKC, and a good bit west of where
my place is. But these guys had claimed to see the cats, and said they
were black. But also, they had lost livestock to these cats. One was a
large Llama, and the others were calves. They were dragging the calves
up into trees to eat them. Dog's don't do that.
The one guy there on a 30 acre farm was so paranoid of the black cat he
saw, that he refused to go out at night without a rifle and a spotlight.
It was his Llama that the cat ate. And Llamas are supposed to be
pretty hard to kill.
One thing about these cats is they have a very large range.
They can travel hundreds of miles during a year of ranging from
what I read. That's one reason why I don't think it's out of the question
that they could be slowly migrating up from Mexico. Many in TX claim
to see them also from time to time.
You should have seen the one I saw run! He was in the middle of the
road when I first saw it. He then decided to jump into the woods.
He lept from the middle of the road, across a gully, and onto the
property next to the road in one big leap. Then kept running off
into the woods. Looked like something you would see in Africa.
That was the first time I'd ever run across a big cat that wasn't in a zoo. :/
I'm just sorry I didn't have the video camera on, and I had one in the
seat next to me. But it all happened so fast, I didn't even think of it at
the time. Also, I wasn't aware that they were considered so scarce
at the time too.. It wasn't until I got back home and started researching
them that I found out that they were not supposed to be in that area.
 
Yep, I like the .357.. Good all around wheelgun, and you can shoot the .38 special
if you want a cheaper and tamer practice load. The .357 with magnum loads
has about the best "one shot kill" records of all the handguns used by police
over the last several years.
I also like the .44 magnum for the same reasons.. It's like a .357 mag on
steroids.. :) You can shoot the .44 special for a tamer practice load, but
if you are in bear country, you can load up the .44 magnum rounds for
that extra punch.
The main reason I use a bottom feeder up there is the number of
rounds I have available. Could come in handy for an attacking pack of
dogs. Even if I miss half my shots due to excitement, I should have plenty
to get the job done. But the .40 S&W is not quite as stout a round as say
the .357 mag. It's not a total slouch through.. :/ I usually use the 180 grain
rounds. But I can also use 165/155 grain also if I want more velocity.
The 180 grain will do about 975 fps on average with a standard factory load.
 
Some of the Coyotes that are seen in the east are a larger subspecies breed. They now call them the Eastern Coyote and well larger than the western animal.

And I hate to say it they do interbreed with the domestic dog which can make for a dangerous cross. We have had a few "Coydogs" here in Fl. Seen one dead on the side of the road had the tail, head, ears and coloration of coyote but the rest of the body was of a larger breed of dog, big feet, heavy bodied. Those are the ones to watch out for as they have no fear of man and can turn on you from what I have read and heard. The straight breeds of coyotes seem to have the common sense to run when around man.

Don
 
I suspect what you saw might have been a panther ( black leopard ) or it could have been a Jag but the way you describe its antics it sounds like a leopard. They can junp great distances. I know about Jags. They are the only big cat that loves to swim and will catch fish or whatever in the water. A good friend of mine ( now retired ) was a professional hunter and took the rich folks on Jaguar hunts in Central America for many years.. As for the cats carrying their kill up into a tree - the leopard is the only cat that does that. They are extremely powerful and can pick up an animal as big as they are in their mouth and jump 20 feet up into a tree.

Hell a few years back I had a monkey running around in my lilac trees in the back yard ( an escaped pet ). Then one day my wife was looking out the front window and says, " Oh look at those funny looking pigeons sitting on that wire". I looked and told her pidgeons don't hang upside down. There were four green parrots out there. They hung around for days then left and haven't seen them since. Then we had an exotic bird in our big cherry tree out back that had escaped from its owners.

It's hard telling what folks will see anymore. So many people have exotic animals as pets. Animals escape from zoos, circuses, compounds, pet owners, and there are packs of feral dogs all over the country and they do interbreed with wild animals. I used to spend a lot of time in the great outsoors and I've seen some strange things. As for the cat screaming - cougars are the only cat that sound just like a women getting her throat cut. Hearing one scream in the middle of the night will shoot you right out of bed.

At one time wolves were nearly gone here but were re-introduced some years back and now there is a healthy population in many parts of this country so it's quite possible you spotted one.

Bill
 
Yeah I like the 357. It's a real stopper. I've shot the 44 but just too uncomfortable to shoot. When I lived in Northern Idaho most of the bear hunters used Ruger 44's. I had two good friends, the one I spoke of in the other post and another who hunted bear extensively using only 44 mags. I remember one time Pete Peterson, an outdoor photographer and film maker was filming one of my two friend's bear hunt and he had a big bear in his view finder with a pack of dogs on its heels heading straight for old Pete. Course the bear looked farther away in the view finder and the bear was almost on him when one of the guys hollered for him to look up. He did just in time and whipped out his 44 and dropped the bear danged near right at his feet. We all got a laugh out of that one.

The one friend and me worked in Watts, California right in the middle of the big riot in the sixties remodeling one of their schools. His 44 mag laid right in the seat between us when we entered and left Watts. We seen a lot of stuff there and a few folks shot by the National Guard. and looting and destruction like you've never seen. Watched a car load of black fellers run an Army road block after being ordered to stop. The officer that ordered them to stop just turned and pointed to the soldier manning a jeep-mounted 30 caliber machine gun, then pointed back to the car. Two quick bursts and the black feller's journey ended forever. That place was a real mess.

One time I was at a shooting range and watched this dumb newbie sitting at a bench rest with a Ruger single six 44. He rested the gun down on the sandbag, got his face right behind it to sight ( I knew what was going to happen ), lit it off and buried the hammer spur right in the middle of his forehead. I couldn't believe it. Fortunately, even though they took him to the hospital, he wasn't seriously wounded.



Bill
 
very interesting reading about the big cat you saw. my dad saw a big black cat out near where we deer hunt one evening just before dark. he swore it was a panther and i'm sure it probably was. one of my shooting buddies that has now passed on told me of a time he was picking wild blackberries out in the river bluff area near where i live. he told of hearing something in the woods running but couldn't see anything. then all of a sudden he had a pack of 5 coyotes surrounding him at about 40 yards and were coming closer all the time.
he was packing a ruger single six with the 22 mag cylinder in it and when they got about 25 yards or so away he opened fire on them. said he killed 3 and scared the other 2 off.
he told me if he wasn't armed he really thought they would have attacked him. i used to hunt arrowheads in the same area and after he told me that story i was always packing at least a 22 of some sort when i went out there. i live in west central illinois and a couple of years ago i was headed out to go target practice with a couple new guns. when i got to the road to turn into my shooting area there was a dead armadillo laying in the road. so you never know what you are going to run into out in the wild. our state dnr released bobcats in the state at various places and i have one behind my house that i have saw 4 different times in the last few months.
 
Yeah I grew up in the Alton/WoodRiver area and hunted all over that part of the state and saw a lot of bobcats and a wolf or two along with a lot of fox.. Never saw an armadillo there. Maybe yours was a Texas transplant. HA.

Bill
 
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