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:usaflag: Help!! Looking For a Detector That Ignores Nails!!!

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Cupajo

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When I started the hobby of metal detecting, I bought what at that time was one of the finest detectors available the Whites 6000DI. I found my first gold ring using it and after many hours of searching had lots of silver, but no more gold.

I learned about water hunting and built a waterproof Plexiglas case so that I could use the detector as a water machine. That
 
There's not a detector out there that will see thru nails and get the treasure underneath, but most all of the VLF discriminators will not signal on them. As for the best, I'm sure all of the brands will say theirs does the best job. If you're dry sanding, the little Ace 150 will do the job quite nicely and for very little money out-of-pocket. There's a guy on "The Other Garrett Forum" , Ian from Japan, that uses a 150 on dry sand saltwater beaches and cleans up!! He too, swings the Infinium in the water, and does real well with it. The 150 is also easily waterproofed, done 2 myself for freshwater hunting. It can even be used in saltwater if you lower the Sens. way down, not the best but it will work.
 
May be wrong but I think they don't ignore nails. They or operator can set set discrimination to sound differently on most nails if you know what I mean - depending on machine, it's settings & capabilities.
I have machines that give a grunt over iron, others will give a chopped blip, others gave a null etc. Still the machine knows, it how the machine responds and how the operator sets it and how the operator responds in some cases.
On land, for nail infested areas, I usually run into other junk. This is where I like the small coils.
Sometimes I pick out a coin or two among the junk, but I figure many have been masked and are missed. Sweeping through at a different angle is what I do if I'm hitting up good targets. This is where I like that small coil and a machine with fast recovery. Using quality headphones, I listen for the hint that something good was in there somewhere, and if I get a peep of a good target, then I'll try to focus and get another good audio signal.
 
Thanks BCD,

I was looking at the Ace 250 as a possible, but I must be sure that this is a one time purchase.

Could it be more versatile than the 150?

Hate to miss a better machine that is only a few dollars more!

Appreciate your input Friend,

CJ
 
Thanks t-n,

I get the message that the man needs to know his machine, but it helps to have a machine that is user friendly too!

I'm hoping all these replys will help me make a more educated decision about which machine to choose.

Your reply is appreciated,

CJ
 
Cup,

I've only been doing this for a year (with a Garrett gtax750 borrowed from a friend) so I can offer no advice as to which unit would best suit your needs, however I had my heart set on a Whites MXT but the Garrett is so easy to use that it sold me. I'm now considering the GTI 1500, personaly. If it's user friendly you're looking for, I'd say you're looking in a very good direction. I frequently check the classifed forum on this site for 1500's but there's never a great deal of Garretts, of any model, for sale there. To me, that alone speaks volumes.

For what it's worth,
Steve in PA
 
Oh my yes, a much more versatile machine, but I figured if you were just hunting sand beaches and sand house lots, that the pinpoint and extra modes and notches wouldn't really be necessary, as you would probably be digging everything that gave you a signal anyway. By all means spend the extra $50-60 and get the 250 if you think you might need those features.
 
the ACE250 is a great little detector in the dry sand & it"s got a good range of coils, it"s got good target ID & it doesn't cost to much.
for heavy iron i"d get the 4 inch sniper coil it separates the iron from the nonferrous targets quite well.
lazyaussie
 
have you tried to use reverse discrimination? I read of a fellow who hunted in nail infested areas and reduced his nail to good target ratio from over 1000:1 to 20:1 using the LS.
 
The reverse disc. is a help, but doesnt cut it much of the time.

I also find the weight of the LS is a problem.

I'm looking at the Garrett Ace 250 as an affordable unit that offers a lot of bang for my buck.

Thanks for your in-put Friend,

CJ
 
Yeah- and there are two ways to run the Ace-Relics mode or all metal. In all metal, as tabnabit said, you will get a very noiceable low tone sound. It will dissappear in Relics mode, which is just above small nails-however large nails will still give a low tone. The relics mode is my favorite hunting mode in schools, tot lots, or parks as I am looking for small rings and, like you, sometimes I just don't wanna hear the paper clips, hairpins, and small nails. But it is still close enough to these trash objects to get the smallest targets right above nails, etc.
 
Ya know all the new machines are loaded with hi tech stuff but if you could locate an old Compass 77 IB from the seventies you'd be set as it was ( and still is ) famous for seeing right through nails, but since it is a TR the depth ain't all that swift..

Bill
 
i use a masterhunter ads7 and a gtax 550... most nails can be dialed out, but nails are nails. size and how it lays in the ground will drive you nuts sometimes. i personally set discrimination at the foil threshold... i dig more... but its worth it. most nails are not noticeable but 25 % give a signal. the small rings, earrings,buttons,badges come thru though. i think the analog controls are more "tweakable" when fine tuning the "crap" out. GOOD HUNTING 11
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Uncle Willy said:
Ya know all the new machines are loaded with hi tech stuff but if you could locate an old Compass 77 IB from the seventies you'd be set as it was ( and still is ) famous for seeing right through nails, but since it is a TR the depth ain't all that swift..

Bill
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This one does too, Bill!:clapping:
 
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