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Version 4 Gold Program ?
- Thread starter reconj
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CZconnoisseur
Active member
^That, sir, is THE question....
Andy Sabisch
Active member
The HF coils work at the three frequencies that are designed for that coil - the current coils use the four frequencies they are designed for . . . . the V4.0 software knows what options to present based on the coil that has been selected.
Andy Sabisch
Andy Sabisch
bigelow
Member
In all honesty though the difference between the GB2 71khz vs the anticipated XP Deus 50ish will probably not be noticeable in most cases, I think the main advantage with the G2 will be the small coil options, I run a 6' elliptical on mine makes getting under those bushes and in tight spots much easier, for example when you are scanning bedrock cracks for alluvial gold. It should be a very close race with the additional XP features. I dont think you could go wrong with either, but glad I own both.
steve herschbach
New member
According to Andy the new frequencies using the new coils are 14.5 kHz, 29 kHz, and 53 kHz. This puts the V4 in the GMT (48 kHz) category but not quite Gold Bug 2 country. I agree the small GB2 coil is one of the best available for hunting small gold.
At 14.5 kHz you still have an excellent general purpose frequency. Examples:
Garrett AT Pro 15 kHz
White's MXT 14 kHz
Fisher F75 13 kHz
One way to look at it is that 14.5 kHz is a great compromise between the 12 kHz and 18 kHz frequencies that most people use when they run a DEUS.
The real key will be which frequency is the primary frequency - the other frequencies are harmonics and do not make as efficient use of the coil as the primary frequency. If they really are doing all they can to make this a nugget detecting option for Africa then the coil will be optimized at 53 kHz (or 55 khz). It could just as well be one if the other frequencies though. Regardless, I think fears that the new coils may not be all that great for coin detecting are unfounded. In fact, at 5.5" x 9" the new elliptical should be better at sniffing out coins in trash than the current smallest 9" coil option. No matter what the number of targets under the coil is the number one factor when it comes to target id accuracy and the new elliptical coil covers almost half as much ground area as the 9" round coil. I think people are in for a pleasant surprise when it comes to coin detecting.
At 14.5 kHz you still have an excellent general purpose frequency. Examples:
Garrett AT Pro 15 kHz
White's MXT 14 kHz
Fisher F75 13 kHz
One way to look at it is that 14.5 kHz is a great compromise between the 12 kHz and 18 kHz frequencies that most people use when they run a DEUS.
The real key will be which frequency is the primary frequency - the other frequencies are harmonics and do not make as efficient use of the coil as the primary frequency. If they really are doing all they can to make this a nugget detecting option for Africa then the coil will be optimized at 53 kHz (or 55 khz). It could just as well be one if the other frequencies though. Regardless, I think fears that the new coils may not be all that great for coin detecting are unfounded. In fact, at 5.5" x 9" the new elliptical should be better at sniffing out coins in trash than the current smallest 9" coil option. No matter what the number of targets under the coil is the number one factor when it comes to target id accuracy and the new elliptical coil covers almost half as much ground area as the 9" round coil. I think people are in for a pleasant surprise when it comes to coin detecting.
sprchng
Well-known member
I think the type of coin hunting and the sites will have a great deal more influence on the success of a new coil as well as how the new 4.0 signal processing is done than merely the shape and frequency of the coil. I can see little advantage of 15khz vs 12 or 18khz if the signal is processed in 4.0 the same as in 3.2. Until the details are released in 2017 it's all speculation anyway.
HuntinDog
Well-known member
About 4 years ago I jumped ship from a MXT PRO (14 kHz) with a 6X9 coil.
It was a killer for me. I couldn't think that I could do better.
So now that I've got a pretty good grip on my DEUS (it's better) my MXT collects dust...
Version 4.0 with the new elliptical coil is very tempting.
Running in the 14.5htz with this new coil (I feel) will give me better separation than I had before.
Also I'm thinking that the higher frequencies will stop the interference with my pinpointer.
So a Win Win for me.
I'm looking forward to the release when ever it gets here...
It was a killer for me. I couldn't think that I could do better.
So now that I've got a pretty good grip on my DEUS (it's better) my MXT collects dust...
Version 4.0 with the new elliptical coil is very tempting.
Running in the 14.5htz with this new coil (I feel) will give me better separation than I had before.
Also I'm thinking that the higher frequencies will stop the interference with my pinpointer.
So a Win Win for me.
I'm looking forward to the release when ever it gets here...