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What is your set up for deep coin hunting?

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greedykind

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Auto on or off?Fast on / off, deep on/ off?What have you had the best success with ttf or multi.
 
I believe there are about 12 questions in your post and lots of debate upcoming... but its not as simple as what one setting is best for deep... We all have different soil, in different conditions, moisture levels, and amount of trash, and target density...

How long have you had your Etrac and hoiw much time to you have on it? Do you have Andy's book... and I would suggest reading back through a ton of great posts here... Don't try everything at once...

What part of the country are you in? Might be someone close by to help out as well..
 
For me it's Auto +3, Deep = ON, Fast = ON, Tone = Multi, Ground = Normal and Pattern = Quick Mask with CO wide open and FE 26. I set manual sensitivity to 29 so I can switch back and forth(< key) between Auto and Manual to check iffy signals.
 
The soils I hunt are very unrealized. If there is lots of trash in them I use the fast on and probably a good 80% of the time. If the coins are deep and in relatively clean soil I will use the deep on about 20%. And to be honest If I have time I will go over the site again and again with the settings changed with both on or off or reversed as the site presents itself to me and I get a feel for it. I have found that trying different settings on a good producing site will let me go back over and find more dig-gable targets and surprises. If the moisture content changes I will hit the good sites again after a rain and from all directions sometimes over and over changing whatever control I think will help as I test them. I will change up the gain or down and try to max the sens if the coins are deep. When in Auto I can almost always go +3 here and only a few times +2 only once +1 and in one spot -1 LOL! In 1/3 of my sites I will hunt in Manual and get 5 - 8 pts above the suggested setting and just concentrate VERY hard on what I am doing but it will wear me down and Then I will go back to manual for a while.

You could always have your setting at the same points and find stuff but then why buy the adjustable machine if you don't like trying to max out the success ratio? I never believe I have a site hunted out anymore its just now a matter of targets per time spent. The best sites I go back to and sometimes get skunked. It depends on my time and distance I* have to go. I don't like to dig lots of modern objects and coins but would rather seek for the historic and more difficult stuff.

But Like you I always read the posts like this and love to learn what the other guys (gals) are doing In hopes I will find a new method. For Instance the TTF that lots of guys like. I try it but for me I miss the multi tone Identifying the object and feel that that is one of the best features of having a multi signal multi tone machine. I have more of an open screen pattern, hear the sound look at the pic then use my noggin to decide. With the TTF I feel like I want more information and that's why I paid for the machine. But if I am going to dig everything is a really old spot I will use the TTF.

Good luck
utahshovelhead
 
Tried ttf and was a little dirfferent but it was going deeper
 
I have had my etrac for about 9 months now and still have alot to learn but just wanted to get opinions on other setups.I like the ttf but you have to look at the screen constantly because of the noise.I was trying to find out actually what other setups for ttf were.Seems like i am digging alot deeper coinage than with multitone, so maybe i am doing something wrong, sweeping coil too fast or should be running in manual with highest level of discrimination?
 
I use deep on, fast off, ground difficult, conductive multi tone exclusively. The deep on makes the quieter deeper tones a little louder. Fast when it is on distorts the warble or tone in multi too much for me so I just slowly crawl and do not like the way fast cuts the warbles short, or rather resets the sound can I say. I hunt in manual 28-30 all the time just go slow. You cannot get too much trash for the E Trac if you ask me. In a total nulled out place going very slow it will signal an accepted target and for a lack of better words lock onto to it with slow very short sweeps. I'll just about bet most of you gents believe you are going slow. If you really think you are cut that speed in half then you are probably almost there but not quite. Let the E Trac do the work by keeping it in the zone very slowly long enough and it will see a good target if one is there. It is very very hard to work a detector as slow as I like to. Most do not. The topic of this post is deep coin hunting, mmm. I've found deep is not the way to look at this machine. It will knock em out deeper than you want to dig I'll guarantee you that. There's more great coins under six inches in the ground just masked by something. You can bet the bank on that. Happy hunting!
 
Jack just how much area do you cover in lets say a 4 hour period?
 
that's pretty much the way I run the E-trac too..........sometimes I have to remind myself to go slowwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!

Hawkeye Jim.
 
greedykind said:
Jack just how much area do you cover in lets say a 4 hour period?
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Well it isn't much. The machine will prove itself to you eventually. I'll have to call it amazing really. There have been many many detectors over some of the lots that I hunt and while they are hunting the lot say 1 acre I barely get out of a 500 square foot spot and will be still finding coins that other minelabs can't get for the trash. If I find a coin there has to be more and there always is in my experience. Slooooowwwww is the way to go. The E Trac like I said will prove itself to you if you give it the time to work it's magic on the ground and trash. Plus you don't have to run around like you are putting out a fire with a broom. Let it work "for" you. It will become painfully obvious if you do how much other machines miss by all the digging you will be doing. I've got a couple of spots that are no bigger than a two car garage that have been pounded but yet they still produce for me.
 
so how long does it take you to cover lets say 2 car garage area?
 
Lot of interesting post here.Thanks to all.(I ACTUALLY WANTED TO KEEP THIS TOWARD THE TOP TO GET MORE INSIGHT)
 
Time to cover an area, depends on the conditions. In very clear ground I move about as fast as "regular" detectorists. If there trash I slow down. If there is a LOT of trash, turtles look like olympic runners.
 
greedykind said:
Tried ttf and was a little dirfferent but it was going deeper
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Actually, this is not true. Changing the sounds your machine makes will not make it detect any deeper.

Also to add, I have found deep coins in max manual, and before I dug - for comparison - switched to auto +3... and guess what? If I were in auto I would have missed these targets.

I have deep on all the time (no sense in turning this off), and honestly I cannot see any difference between fast on or off.

I am an avid user of multi tones. I feel the more information the better. However, if I ever come across a trash laden area, TT definitely helps in that situation.

Good luck.
 
I hunted a new site that i know had been hit alot in petersburg ky and i was finding coins at a greater depthy than normal.I didnt mean that ttf went deeper but i was recovering coins that someone had passed up i guess.I am still not sure i am using ttf correctly so if anyone has any info that would be great.
 
greedykind said:
I hunted a new site that i know had been hit alot in petersburg ky and i was finding coins at a greater depthy than normal.I didnt mean that ttf went deeper but i was recovering coins that someone had passed up i guess.I am still not sure i am using ttf correctly so if anyone has any info that would be great.
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Well, I have learned that one thing that will effect depth and accuracy is wet ground. Was the the ground wet for you that day?

As for TT, use very little discrimination and dig every high tone.

You asked about sensitivity earlier. Well, given the woody areas I hunt, I max mine out in manual, with iron nulled out. Your machine will make more sounds than usual because of the high sensitivity, but eventually with enough practice you will learn to discern between false, unwanted sounds and distinct, crisp, desirable sounds. I believe it's a FACT that with higher sensitivty you WILL find more.
 
Would you think the 6x8 sef coil would be quieter than the 10 x 12 sef coil with screen wide open in ttf in manual maxed out?
 
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