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What makes a good detecting video - and thanks to all who create them!

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DirtFlipper

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I have an Explorer SE, not an E-Trac (yet), so I usually hang out on the Explorer forum. But it seems like the majority of folks who create and post 'tecting vids on u-tube use E-Tracs, so I thought I'd say thanks for all those efforts here. I've really enjoyed watching all of them, and look forward to seeing more. To me, it seems hard enough to get out and hunt, let alone capture it all on video, so hats off to the lot of ya! :clapping:

From watching so many, I've come to especially appreciate a particular aspect of them, and thought I'd pass it on to see what others thought.

My all-time favorite sequence is when someone gets a signal, and shows the signal and sound before recovering it. Might be an iffy signal, etc, but capturing and sharing that part of it is just golden to me. Then followed by the recovery and discovery of what it is "as it happens." Those are just awesome! All the better when they turn out to a goodie, but capturing that whole sequence is invaluable. The sound of the target after it's been recovered can be recreated, but the sound of the target while still in the ground is unique, and the most informative I think.

So bonus points for including those in your vids!

HH,
DirtFlipper
 
I have watched most of the vids on YouTube about treasure hunting and about the E-Trac. I have noticed aspects that I like, and that I don't like about them.

I like it when they record the target ID display, and the sound of the target before digging. It gives me a sense of target quality, and gets me to analyzing like I would if I had just gotten that signal. I like to see the target recovered, not just after recovery.

I don't like videos shot with cell-phones. The cheapness of the quality comes across and makes it difficult to watch. I don't like it when the hunter makes a recovery and then shoots 30 seconds of the palm of the hand while THEY look at the target. HELLO!!!?? You're recording this for us to watch, we don't want to see your hand. I HATE out of focus close-ups. If your camera won't do macro, don't zoom in on a blurry brown disc.

I want to watch videos of nice finds. We all dig clad all the time, and it's nothing special. Don't waste most of our time showing clad recoveries, or we will probably quit watching your vids. Try and keep each recovery to about a minute or 2 at the most. It starts to get boring after that.

I hope no one takes these as being mean, I intend them as constructive criticism.
 
I'll take what you both said into consideration. I do try to make the videos for the viewers but sometimes you can run into problems in the field. Like I'll record 6 recoveries, all of deep signals that sound great and they turn out to be memorial pennies or junk. So I get another like signal not far away and don't record it and you guessed it, a good find. So I usually show just the find in that situation. I want enough good content to justify making the video, that can be difficult in some of my hunted out areas. I know from watching it can get boring waiting for someone to recover a target so I try to get it as soon as possible. Sometimes it works sometimes it don't. Wind can also be a problem. Out in the field it doesn't sound or feel that windy but when I play back the footage it's like a tornado. I try not to face the camera into the wind if possible that's where it's the worst. Blurry finds are a problem also. With my camera I can't switch between Macro and Standard except before I start recording, If I'm recording the whole recovery Macro usually isn't the way to go but I usually try to add a Macro still shot at the end. You guys have hit on some valid problems and I'll try to make the videos I put up next year a little better. Thanks for viewing. HH
Vidslayer
 
Oh hell Vidslayer, your's is one of the best ones! You were the first one I subscribed to.

A good video editing software can be had pretty cheaply. Theres no problem with filming in standard, and restarting in macro for certain shots. Just cut and paste it all together with the editor.

I play with underwater filming while scuba diving, but my homemade case is as basic as it gets. I start the camera, lock it into the case and point at what I want to film hoping I am aiming correctly. I come back with hours and hours of footage that I have to edit down into interesting segments for a short film of the trip. I just have never messed with uploading to Youtube. I put them on a Scuba forum I frequent though. Need to get off my lazy butt and post them.

I've never figured out how to deal with wind either. Those built in mics are VERY sensitive!

I keep meaning to take my video camera with me when I go out hunting, but often the hunts are spur of the moment and I don't have my vid with me.
 
Hi Guys and Gals,
I have to say that this is a little harder to do then you might think.Its at least 20 bad targets to one out there.So every time you try to show the sound the numbers and all its like this...Find a target get out cam shoot all these things then dig and and and piece of crap.So mostly you get recovery shots and I hope in focus....without wind.... Everyone is a critic.Lucky its fun for us too or there would be nothing.Content is tough We have to find ours and be lucky enough to have the cam going.I 'll make more next year and try to make them better I promise.

Oh
the edit can be a pain too

CTTodd
 
Thanks for the info on this thread. I am planning on doing some videos next season to post with my new E-trac. Just ordered my video camera yesterday. Finally found one that has great macro capabilities. Thanks for the advice GibsonDan.

Anyways, the thoughts in this thread will help me make the best videos possible from the start i hope.

Take care and Merry Christmas everyone.
 
I enjoy watching them, the ones that I most enjoy is done in Arkansas.

I look at it like this, there worst is better than me that can not do a video.
I know it takes time when you get home and edit the video.
If you dig a zinc or a nail, that's life in its truest form.
I wished that I would have had someone shoot a video of some of the things that
have happened to me while out hunting...
Keep doing what your doing...
HH...BJ
 
I filmed many of my hunts this past year. Every now and then I included a complete dig - from discovery of the signal to recovery of the target - when I thought it was going to be something good. However most of the time I simply filmed the recovery to save time and keep hunting. Toward the end of the season I became much more conscious of time spent filming as days got dramatically shorter. When it started getting dark around 4:30 p.m. to 5:30 p.m. I just wanted to hunt as much as possible in the limited amount of time I had. I began to realize how much filming negatively impacts time as the sun began to set. Cleaning silver coins with water on site for filming costs even more time. And then after each hunt I spent a lot more than 10 minutes making 10 minute movies. Nuff said about that. lol. It sure is a lot quicker to simply snap a pic of your finds at the end of the day. Shoot. After typing this post I'm considering not filming as much next year so I can hunt more. lol. Even though we are amateurs, I believe we should make movies based on what viewers want to see. A thread like this one will help a lot of people, including me, make better videos.
 
Until you've tried it yourself It's hard to imagine how tedious shooting a video can be. Many of the mistakes are not realized until you get home and start editing the video. At that point you have the option to leave it with the mistakes or trash the video with the intentions of doing it better next time. I will post a video as long as part of it can be useful. It is a learning process all its own thats for sure.
 
gibsondan said:
I filmed many of my hunts this past year. Every now and then I included a complete dig - from discovery of the signal to recovery of the target - when I thought it was going to be something good. However most of the time I simply filmed the recovery to save time and keep hunting. Toward the end of the season I became much more conscious of time spent filming as days got dramatically shorter. When it started getting dark around 4:30 p.m. to 5:30 p.m. I just wanted to hunt as much as possible in the limited amount of time I had. I began to realize how much filming negatively impacts time as the sun began to set. Cleaning silver coins with water on site for filming costs even more time. And then after each hunt I spent a lot more than 10 minutes making 10 minute movies. Nuff said about that. lol. It sure is a lot quicker to simply snap a pic of your finds at the end of the day. Shoot. After typing this post I'm considering not filming as much next year so I can hunt more. lol. Even though we are amateurs, I believe we should make movies based on what viewers want to see. A thread like this one will help a lot of people, including me, make better videos.
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Dan is right...Most All of us that post detecting videos on you tube try to make a balance between. Finding a target we ourselves would like to see recovered. But 1/2 the time or more. The recovery is of junk or Memorials,and I don't know about you guys....But I have recovered over 1,600 mems (Not including the wheat's)...And showing the recovery of an 8 inch target that reads as a dime can be a let down as much for the viewer as it is for me when it's an 8" mem....LOL......
Like Dan says....Filming takes allot from detecting time...Maybe we don't mind too much on a 10 hour summer hunt...But when you get out in late November or December....You only have
5-6 hours of tolerable weather daylight to hunt...Out of those 6 hours (If I just film mostly recovery) It takes 20-25 minutes time out of my hunt to get 12 minutes of video good enough so that I can get home and edit it down to a decent 7-8 minute video.....I want it to be exciting for the viewer, but yet not take forever to upload it....That's why I edit down so much....
OK ....for a 6 hour hunt.....20 minutes to prepare and film 12 minutes of video.....Take my finds home...&..Clean um up....another 20 minutes....Put them in the computer & edit.....another 60 minutes (Usually).......then instead of uploading straight to You Tube....I like to Save my videos to the Hard Drive....about another 120 minutes.....and if it is a 10 minute 720 P HD formatted full screen......There goes another 140 minutes to upload....Then it takes about an hour to Proccess the video for viewing (But we will not include that time....)...So 20 min + 20 min + 60 min +120 min + 140 min...= 6 hours of time spent trying to share 10 of the best minutes of a 6 hour hunt ! LOL............I have a gig of memory on my 6 year old computer,& will upgrade this spring to a much faster studio /Media Computer....Which I am sure will cut that time down to only 3-4 hours time spent to share the best 10 min of a 6 hour hunt....But as you can see.......We are all learning more about
how to make and share videos and................The reason I read and posted on this thread....To learn more about what the viewers would like to see......
We ALL Love to share when we are making a good find....And ALL of us will turn the camera on and share when we see a target that reads Cond 45-47 and is 6-8 inches deep......
The only problem is...........LOL....................More than Half the time it's Clad......LOL....................and 1 out of 1 or 200 of those three inch targets we dig is the real goody....like a barber....or in VidSlayers ? case.......a seated dime.....LOL............Still haven't found one of those yet ! ....LOL..........
So Congratulations to guys like GibsonDan & Vidslayer....(Those are the only two on this post I recognize so far) For doing your best on those awesome videos....( I understand What you go Threw).........All of us that read this thread are learning from it ...To help us Share our finds & Passion for the hobby...............
Now I have to check and see if my (Cleaning Wheat's & Indian Heads) Video is uploaded to You Tube yet....(6 hours to clean &16 hours time spent to Film Upload & Share)...
And before I post...........I will have to remember to click on the options box above ....to not only Follow Topic....(Most always do)......But also to click on (Email me about replies to this topic)...
LOL..............Since I only Log in about once a week.....I often forget to do that....Then it takes a long while to go threw a couple pages looking for The post I was following & wanted to read more about
...........Sorry for the long rant...........DirtFish Dave McNickle.............(219erman)
 
I've got a few as DCDetector but I'm still learning my camera. I'm working on a series comparing the E-Trac and the V3. Everything I recover is old. No clad on my videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYIuu6f330I
 
Nice vid and good edit.I like the towel for recovery very good to show on your video
CTTodd AKA CTTodd1 on YouTube
 
This is right on topic! I could not see the readouts for some reason so how about a verbal 12/43 or whatever it was? I have not been out for over a week and am getting the shakes, I need a fix! LOL Terry
 
I appreciate anyone who takes the time to share their hunt and finds. I watch videos from McNickle (aka 219erman), CT Todd and Vidslayer. They are excellent, in my humble opinion. I also have suscribed to many other detectorists' videos. Some of them are experienced, like the aforementioned, and some are just starting out. What I enjoy most about videos from guys just starting out is their enthusiasm about hunting and their exclamations of joy when they find something good. Right now I'm thinking about a young kid who goes by the nickname "Nuggetnoggin." I think his dad or grandfather films for him. When he finds something good he loudly yells, "Aw Man!! That's a Good Find!!!" He gets so excited. He's even happy when he finds newer coins. One could criticise that kid's videos to death, but I'd rather just enjoy them. Has anybody here seen LaDigger's video where he finds his first silver dollar in all his years of detecting? This normally mild mannered man smiles from ear-to-ear and shouts, "Whhooooo! My first silver dollar, Baby! Yeah, you're right!" How about Vidslayer saying, "Ohhh. It's a quarter of some sort...a silver quarter. Sweet." He cleans it up in a puddle of water and yells, "It's a Seated!" Priceless! How about an older gentleman (who goes by the nick "Deepbeeps") who bought a new detector and found an 1833 Capped Bust dime on his second hunt. He exclaimed, "Ohhhhh myyyy!" Who cares that his camera wasn't able to get a perfect close-up and he looked at it in his hand for a while? Shoot. If you don't like someone's videos, just don't watch them any more. But, as I said in the beginning of this post, I simply appreciate anyone who takes the time to make a video to share their experience with us.
 
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