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Where are the finds?

EZrider

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Ive been reading this forum and enjoying it. I had a chance to use and test a GT a couple of years ago. At the time i was one of the first to get an ETrac on the east coast. Head to head in stock form i didn't see the Sov or the ET any deeper than the other. Both on the wet salt sand and the big city parks. Although they both ran circles around my other models i had. Instead of having a closet full of detectors i was looking for one that could do it all really well. Dry sand, wet salt sand, parks and deep woods relic hunting. As much as i liked the GT "I still want one". The only place it came out even was on the wet salt sand for me. In the dry i prefer the ET. In the Ferris trash laden parks where targets are inches apart-The ET. Relic hunting i still liked the ET more.

My question is the subject of the post. While i enjoy the nuts and bolts about the machine and the walls of text. Where are all the finds?
 
Most from the Excaliburs, all from the beach..never had much luck on land with finding rings
 
WOW! Oldbeechnut, that's a great picture... I don't suppose its inside a treasure chest shaped box, is it? Very artistic and nice. Your videos are top notch too!
 
Drooling over all those rings!

I posted a ring a few weeks back and many other good finds with pics have been posted by others over the last month as well. I also posted a bunch of silver I've found that was posted I think less than a month ago.

Talk to Synthnut as he owns an Etrac and a GT for opinions. Also, look in the "Compare The Competition" thread a page or two down for comparisons. One other thing I'd do is search this forum for some older posts by JBow that mention the words "Explorer" or "Etrac". I think it was him that one day at a farm house used several machines and the Sovereign I think he said was the only one giving him stable IDs, resulting in some good finds.
 
I used to say the same thing ...........I have found a bit of goodies :angel: In my hunts.........It was no simple walk in the park but once the sov ''opened up to me'' I realized what time it was ..............I used to post finds but ............good luck my friend !!
 
Here are my first summer Excal finds +coins,used maybe 200 in shops,no pic.

Sorry,wrong coin pic,this is some Excal and Safari finds. To early in the morning :stars:
 
I've been lazy and haven't taken any pictures of my finds lately but here are some old ones. Some beach finds and the rest are lumber mill ghost town and logging camp finds.
 
EZ ....
You were there to witness todays finds ...... You KNOW the Sovereign is a machine to be reconned with ....even though we both really love our E Tracs !!.....Jim

I got one Barber dime , and a couple of Wheats out of the deal today ....I also got some keys and a weird Quarter that had a dime either painted to it , or nail polished to it .....VERY STRANGE !!.....The rest was just normal clad ......
 
Jim, Yes the Sov is a cool machine. You did well and even snuck out a silver! I do find it complexing that the Sov couldnt hit on the deep silver i targeted with the ET. I wonder why i could hit it plain as day and you could not? Odd indeed.
 
I did squeak a tone or two out of that target in the end, but it took some fenagling to do it .....It was plain as day with your E Trac .....I'm SURE that I would have passed right over that target !!..... Just as I thought all along, there are some placese where each machine will excel .....The park was one where the E Trac bettered the Soveriegn .....?????...... I'm wondering too if I had a larger DD coil on there if it would have made the difference ..... I can remember threads from a while ago where folks were wondering ( it may have been Critter ) if the coil was what made the difference on these machines ...... I'll get a SEF coil for it and see if that makes a difference .......GREAT TIME YESTERDAY !!....Jim
 
I did squeak a tone or two out of that target in the end, but it took some fenagling to do it .....It was plain as day with your E Trac .....I'm SURE that I would have passed right over that target !!..... Just as I thought all along, there are some placese where each machine will excel .....The park was one where the E Trac bettered the Soveriegn .....?????...... I'm wondering too if I had a larger DD coil on there if it would have made the difference ..... I can remember threads from a while ago where folks were wondering ( it may have been Critter ) if the coil was what made the difference on these machines ...... I'll get a SEF coil for it and see if that makes a difference .......GREAT TIME YESTERDAY !!....Jim
 
Nice finds everybody! That pocket watch is really nice. Never found one but I did find the guts to a watch next to what I believe to be an old Indian camp site on a ridge. I found numerous depressions about tea pee sized and about a foot or two deep. These things were in circles with one bigger one in the middle. I seem to remember reading that the Indians around here would dig the floors of their tea pees out for more head room. I have a theory that this watch was stripped of it's gold or silver and then the guts pitched. The area has almost no other trash present, and that would jive with Indians since they didn't carry as much metal around with them as White people.

If the Etrac was using the 11" stock coil or something bigger and the GT was using the stock 10" coil then there's your difference. Just look at my initial comparison on depth of the stock coil to the 12x10 in that thread. Also, (for the one millionth time) I've found that at least in my soil if I run sensitivity too high (even if it's stable) that a deep coin will degrade or even null out. Found this to be true on my Explorers as well. They will choke or overload on the ground matrix as it seems a target being present pushes them over the edge when sensitivity is right at the edge of stability.

If you search through the forums on Find Mall as well as across the web you'll find people who state that the Explorer & Etrac do not get as good of depth or target quality than the GT at some of their sites. Whether that's due to mineral content (the more/higher frequencies of FBS machines reflecting off the ground content), or certain RF frequencies being present that give those machines more problems is any body's guess. I just know I've read enough of that to know there is some grain of truth to it. I also remember one guy stating that he has found no other machine that would run as smooth and get as deep as the Sovereign when going to larger coils (12" or bigger).

Sure, there are going to be days when the reverse of that is true. Some of the subtle things that nobody can put a finger on (minerals, RF noise, coil selection, user set up, how well they know the machine, etc) can mean the Explorer, Etrac, or GT can out do each other on any given day. Just look at one of the most experience Etrac/Explorer users on those forums. He just said 12" on a dime was his deepest dime yet. That's in no way out of the capabilities of the Sovereign. Variables such as ground matrix can achieve or not achieve that. I know I've dug coins at 11" deep that hit so hard and well that I bet they could have been at least a few more inches deep and I would still have got them. I also know I've read of Sovereign owners popping coins at 12", and I think some of those were with an 8" coil if I'm not mistaken. All the above is about coins on land. Of course in the sand depths usually increase greatly. The point is that all three of these machines are right in the ball park with each other to where if the wind just blows right one will pass the other on any given Sunday. For me my Explorers *in my soil* did not live up to the hype. I kept buying those machines off and on over the years thinking I would finally get them to go deeper than my QXT Pro. Nope, and I was extensive in use, settings, and testing. Never happened.
 
I don't think any of these machines are deeper than one another. Depth very to much on the soil composition, machine settings and how the person is swinging the coil. What one person gets in Cali is going to be different than i get here in NY. What i have seen from both using a Sov with a meter and detecting along side Jim. The ET out shines the Sov in Target ID.
 
I found the 2D resolution on the Explores (much like the Etrac's) along with the finer detail in the coin range made the ID not nearly as stable at depth than it is on my GT. At depth the Sovereign wants a very specific wiggle or short sweep at a very specific speed (for that site) to bring the ID into focus. Once that's done it's more stable at depth than any machine I've ever owned. It's also much easier to lock into a "180" "Zone" than the machine trying to split a coin's traits into five different dimensions of ID possibility. I hated that on my Explorers. Dug too many iffy coin signals that the machine was sure trying to make me think were junk due to the ID ranging around. Also, I've dug plenty of silvers that the Explorer called Wheats to know not to trust that kind of resolution.
 
Critter, the ETrac is not an Explorer. It doesn't even ID like one. The difference I'm talking about is what you said. The Sov puts pennies dimes quarters etc into the "180". The ETrac can ID Indian Head pennies, Zincs, Memorials/Wheat's from Clad dimes, Silver dimes, Quarters etc diffrent form each other. I don't have to dig pennies if i don't want to.
 
Ever since I dropped my camera in the water I have not been able to post pics as my spare camera does not take good close up shots. So here are some of my greatest hits. All found with my GT

take care
HH
Jason
 
The more I think about it , the more I don't think that it was a matter of depth ......EZ's Silver dime was really no deeper than mine , and we both dug down a good 6-7 inches for our dimes ........There were so many other targets around his dime that I think what I experienced was more of a SIlent Mask more than anything else .....I've noticed that the E Trac can " see thru " iron and other Masks a lot easier than any other machine that I have used ...... The E Trac read that dime without issue ....It was not like you had to set things up to hear the Flutey Silver tone ...... I could not get that with EVERYTHING that I tried .....The hgh tone that I did get was probably more of a false than a real tone, since I had my Sensitiviy up so high at one point trying to get a tone .......It surely did not register on the meter ...... There are just some situations where the E Trac will shine above the Sovereign .....This was one of them ...In a different area where there not as much crap around , I'm sure that the Sovereign can go as deep , if not deeper than the E Trac , but this time it was just not reading the Silver ......That's a pretty intense coin to loose out on !!!..... BTW , I did have my machine set up in IRON MASK ON !!..... I tried many different settings to hear this dime to no avail ..... I purposely brought the Sovereign to ths area because I wanted it to Sniper out what Silver was in this area ....We hunted a LONG TIME to get those peices of Silver ....This area of the park is hunted to DEATH !!......Slim Pickens is not the word for it ..... I still waked out with a Silver and a couple of Wheats , but I can't help but wonder how many other Silvers did I walk right over ....Jim
 
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