Who uses the 10" Elliptical DD on their T2 model?

[Monte]

Please, give me your impressions on balance and performance. What applications do you use it for, and if you've tried a similar size coil on a different make/model, how does it compare?

Wondering about investing in a brand new coil for my T2[sup]+[/sup] because I like a mid-sized coil for sparse-target areas, and it's either get this one for this unit or outfit a different detector I have. Maybe two or three times in a year do I ever use a 'standard' search coil as they are just too large for my hunt sites. Most work is handled using smaller-size coils, and in modestly littered places I opt for a mid-sized coil. This size on the Fisher F-19 and comparable models had a nose-heavy feel, and I had one for an F-75 several years ago, but don't remember how well that balanced. I do prefer a coil with the rod-mount closer to the center, but the T2[sup]+[/sup] wouldn't be used a lot with this coil.

Just wondered about a user's viewpoint and experiences.

Monte

 

[Mega]

I personally like the NEL Sharpshooter coil on my T2,its roughly the same size as what you have mentioned,outstanding target separation,pinpointing is great as well and also it has that major request of being centre mounted for the bottom rod.........my standard original green T2 and the Sharpshooter coil has snagged me more gold coins that all my other detectors put together,this includes celtic full and 1/4 staters,George 111 full guineas and Viccy sovereigns.

This combination is one of my all time favourites,i do own a Equinox and Deus and many other combinations but my main machine that i have used since 2006/7 has been my old faithful T2,if it aint broke dont fix it.

 

[Snap On Man]

I like the sharpshooter also. It never comes off. With the center mount it is a effortless swing.

 

[2 Much Trash]

Monte, I agree 100% with Mega & Snap on Man. The Nel Sharpshooter in my opinion would be the best choice. Not in the least is it nose heavy, it's perfectly balanced on the T2 and light as a feather. I've never been much of a fan of after market coils but the Sharpshooter on the T2 is an exception. Deep little sucker and separates like a champ.
Bill

 

[IowaRelic]

The 10” elliptical DD is my all around favorite and most productive coil on my T2SE and my omega 8000. I also have it on a gold bug pro. All my machines came with one so I’ve never paid for one outright. But it’s a great coil. Very deep. A little heavier than the 11” I think but balanced. It separates very well. And it handles emi second to only the 5”. I will admit that I question its depth on the gold bug. 6” maybe on a coin in mild dirt. Hits 8” quarter and penny on the omega. On the t2 it is a monster little thing and is better than stock in every way. Lacks about an 1” to stock. I have dug a measured 9” Rosie dime with it in 3 tone. Was clear sound. GB at 57.

 

[Monte]

Snap-On-Man, thanks for your reply. Over five decades of detecting I've had ample experiences using after-market search coils. Overall, I haven't been all that pleased, but from using different NEL Sharpshooter and Snake coils on different branded devices, I have been left impressed. Solid products that have been very consistent in performance..

Having the rod-mount more centered than FTP's Teknetics and Fisher product is a good thing. I use some Fisher and Teknetics models, including some that came with a 10" elliptical DD coil, and I never cared for the off-to-the-rear rod-mount. One positive thing about their elliptical Double-D coil is the solid-body design compared with the open-frame design of the 5X9½ DD on my Nokta CoRe and Relic units. Quite a few of the old-site locations I search have a very dense, stiff, weedy growth, and some also have a lot of sagebrush with 'grabby' under-growth, or sticks and twigs in the treed areas, and all that can occasionally cause snagging. Not always, but annoying when frequent. Solid-body coils tend to glide through those places more smoothly with less coil sweep disruption.

That's one of the reasons I was / am interested in the First Texas product with the solid-body design. The more centered rod-mount position would be helpful, however, because it can improve the balance as well as coil control. When mounted rear-ward, like the Tek. coil is, that can cause more coil flop or movement out of a 'proper' coil-to-ground orientation when it encounters the stiffer brush. Worse than using a more centered rod-mount design.

There is one other reason I like the Teknetics coil compared to all the after-market coils available, and that is the fact that FTP makes their coils [size=small](most of them)[/size] white-colored instead of black for the Tek. T2 series. My eyes can better witness the search coil when it is worked in a very brushy environment and in-and-around under brush/shrubs. That way I can better see a search coil to ensure I am getting the best coverage possible.

So, solid body design in white are what I like about the Tek. coil. Wrong rod-mount location is what I don't care for. Might have to check out a Sharpshooter coil on the T2[sup]+[/sup]. Thank you.

Monte

 

[Monte]

Another positive report on the after-market NEL Sharpshooter. Like you, I have generally not been a fan of coils not made by the detector manufacturer, but two NEL coils on several brands of detectors did leave me impressed. If it isn't a nose-heavy feel on the T2, that's a plus for me. Separation abilities are especially influenced by the detector's circuitry design, but you mentioned the Sharpshooter coil is "Deep." Now, I am not a big fan of all the "depth discussions" in recent years, but I also don't care for a wimpy detector/coil combo, either.

I generally use smaller-size coils on every detector I own because I spend most of my search time in very trashy sites where 'depth' isn't achievable, anyway. That said, there are more open areas where I work between some of the denser littered places and I am conscious and aware of reasonable depth performance. The T2 used to be one of my main-use Relic Hunting detectors, and with the 5" DD coil in use. In January of 2015 it, and my White's MXT Pro and other TID featured models, were out-performed and replaced in my Regular-Use Detector Team, and one of the reasons was the T2 & 5" DD fell short on detection depth on coin-sized / button-sized targets. Also short on performance in an Iron nail challenged test.

I've picked up three T2 series models since then to use for a while, and last fall / winter I acquired a new T2[sup]+[/sup] to see how the bP function handled the more open areas for me where there are fewer masking targets. That's why I am curious about getting a mid-sized 10" elliptical DD coil and which might get the better votes of confidence. Once I get one, either a Teknetics offering or after-market [size=small](and it's looking like the NEL Sharpshooter is the one to go with)[/size] then I'll compare it to what I have now [size=small](my Relic w/open-frame 5X9½ DD)[/size] and decide if I want to hang onto my T2+ with that mid-sized coil or not.

I appreciate your reply.

Monte

 

[Monte]

I just knew I was going to hear from you! I anticipated another encouraging suggestion for the NEL coil, and since I haven't heard from anyone yet, on a Teknetics Forum, regarding a Teknetics coil, I'm less enthused to shop for one. I especially like the white-colored coil, and even the solid-body design for a site we've been hunting recently with a lot of dense, snagging brush and debris. But I do like a centered rod-mount position, and I need a lighter-weight set-up.

A friend called and said he had a Sharpshooter coil I can check out. That way I'll know how it balances, and can also do my side-by-side comparisons with the 5X9½ DD open-frame coil I have on a different product. I'm looking for improved depth of detection and a little better handling of Iron Nail infested sites than what my T2's have provided me.

The T2 and F75 'package', combining the arm cup design, the rod and grip configuration, the rear battery and speaker component and the simple 1-knob and 1-button control set on the display pod, all combine to make one of my all-time favorite detector packages. I'd be pleased if they kept this configuration when they engineer-up the next new model release. A new product with better iron handling and a bit better depth and TID accuracy at mid-depth to deeper targets than the T2's would be welcome.

Monte

 

[vlad]

and hunts iron extensively with very good results..
Its a center mount and weighs a pound, +/- an ounce, but it is black (he put a white pinstripe around it+ white in the center.)
The separation is Much better than an F-75 w/stock 11".
It ground balances correctly (in the past some Nels have had problems.)
(And do NOT believe anything Mega says about great finds--he just says those things because they are true.)