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Ma Betty in MO said:a lot of it was my fault too, as I would get tired of things as they were and start complaining or (Nagging) as most men would call it! But didn't do any good as he turned a deaf ear
Ma Betty in MO said:Treat her like a queen and you will be her king!
I don't think it's in quite that bad o' shape yet.....Besides, she wouldn't go anyway......She wanted me sober, and now I am. Perhaps she liked me better when I was drinking.....seeker41(columbus ohio) said:counsiling and she needs alanon., been there done that!!! you guys are on very thin ice.

God Bless! Betty
God Bless! BettyI'm a very humble person now, and I'm in the "re-building" stage of my life. I'm not as bad a guy as you think. Thanks for your post. It has shown me one important thing......that I should NEVER have created this thread. For that I am truly sorry, and I would ask that it not be posted on again......God Blessa4wdguy said:Words like "support" and "understanding" are, to me, quite harmful. They are often used to describe something one partner feels they deserve but aren't getting from the other.
I say, stop demanding support or understanding, or anything else that requires your wife to give. The more you demand, the harder it will be for her to give.
If you are wanting to explore your new thoughts and feelings to seek understanding, then tell her. An approach that indicates that you value her views, her ideas and her participation is in order.
Don't center your conversations on you or your feelings. Instead, ask her to describe what she is thinking, then relate that to how you feel. When she tells you something, actually listen to what she is saying. Listen with your ears, your mind, and your heart. Comments like "I think I can understand what you are feeling because I have similar feelings." will allow you to talk about what is on your mind too. Conversations go both ways. You have to make hearing what your partner is saying more important than what you have to say. When the conversation starts to get heated, and defenses start coming online, stop the conversation. Address the issue directly. Something like "I can feel you and I are starting to get defensive. We should slow down and cool off. I have no desire to hurt you, and I know you don't want to hurt me. We can come back to this topic later, if you like." That takes the pressure off her to deal with something unpleasant until she feels better prepared for it. It also lets her know you care, and that you are not attacking her. If you find you are attacking her, stop it. Be honest with yourself and her. You are the man in this marriage, that means she looks to you for support and guidance. A woman cannot be expected to respect a man that behaves like a child. You have to have honesty, integrity, and strength. The honesty and integrity you will find within yourself. Your strength must come from God. Is she a strong Christian woman? If not, it is your responsibility to help her become one. Even harder to do when you are confused about your own faith. However, it is necessary for you both to learn and grow together in faith. You need to study together. A marriage that is unequally yoked will not survive.
Veiled threats, even to make a point, are counter productive. You may think you are making a point, but what you are telling her is that you are about to discard her, and she needs to start protecting herself. You are her protector. It's a sad day when she needs to be protected from her protector.
Sorry for the long post, but I couldn't sit back and say nothing.
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