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X-TERRA 10" x 5" DD 18.5 kHz COIL ?

Reddog777

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Have anyone ever used this coil on the X-terra 705. If so, what kind fo performance did you get with it . I know that it is design for gold propecting, but what about general hunting ( coin, jewelery, rilice? Thanks.
 
That coil is good for all of what you ask, as well as a good beach hunting coil (just don't get it wet as it's not waterproof).

I found many coins with the coil and it hits well on them including nickels.

Read the ebook that has been written for the X-Terra models by Digger, it has loads of good info in it.
 
In my opinion, it is a great all around coil. As a DD coil, it separates well. And at 18.75 kHz, it is very sensitive to small targets. The solid bottom coil allows me to hunt in areas with weeds and stubble, where open spoke coils can get "hung up". I'd imagine there are several hundred posts on this forum, from folks bragging on their elliptical coil. Many of them use it for general hunting (coins, jewelry and even relics). Some of these folks use this coil exclusively. To review those posts, do a search of this site by using the seach function near the top of this page. HH Randy
 
i use this coil.It works well,found lots of clad ($50.)two gold rings ,three silver rings and my most prized 12 grams of nuggets.This is the only coil i own it seems to do everything i want it to do .
 
The 10x5 will NOT go as deep as the 10.5DD 18.75. I have found that once you get use to the size/weight of the 10.5 coils, you will not use anything else to hunt with, after all it is the same design/size as the old Explorer coil................Mark



Reddog777 said:
Thanks for all of the replies on the 10'' x5'' coil. Will it detect as deep as the round DD coil?
 
Whats the price on that coil. I feel one comming soon then
 
I love this coil and performs great in heavy materialized ground. Some hot rocks are a challenge but I need more practice and want to try Kevin's tuning trick.
I trust this coil and it likes me so far.The size is perfect for my needs.
I wish it was water proof though.
 
IMO, the 5x10 is a pointless coil.
Since it's not waterproof, it offers nothing over the 10.5" other than rather miniscule weight savings. As far as Randy's preferece for a soild coil, so as not to get hung up in brush/stubble? Easy. Just offer an accessory solid coil cover. If it doesn't go as deep as the 10.5", and the separation capability isn't remarkably better, and they have a high trash killer 6"DD which is waterproof, why bother with a 5x10? I can't for the life of me understand why MineLab felt the need to bridge such a narrow gap, especially when there are other coils that need designing for the X-Terra.
 
My most recent understanding is that the shape of the detecting field allows for better separation of targets in trashy areas.
 
GTzer said:
My most recent understanding is that the shape of the detecting field allows for better separation of targets in trashy areas.
I understand the concept, but...
The 6" DD is better for separation in trash. The 10.5" is still a DD, so it separates better than a concentric, and it runs deeper than the 5x10".

You can get 9" concentric, 10.5" DD, 5x10" DD, and 6" DD HF coils.
You can get 9" concentric, 10.5" DD, and 6" concentric MF coils.
But there is only a 9" concentric LF coil.
Doesn't it appear that coil design/availability is a bit lop-sided?

Why so many HF choices compared to other frequencies?
Why bridge the narrow gap between the HF coils, while ignoring the LF coils completely?
 
Old Longhair-I don't even have my ordered 705 yet, My simple statement is from the info-I'v read here and received from ?'s asked.

Lopsided?-YES! And the whole coinshooter (my primary) theme off the top of my head is VLF. I used a White 6000 Di Series 3 since '83. VLF- VLF-VLF............etc is all that was ever part of coin MDing.
I come here for advice on choosing a 705------------describe my primary sites as heavy mineralization and trashy and get enough info to make me choose the Goldpack w the HF 10x5.

I will end up with a MF coil soon. If I knew I could spend any amount of time in low mineralized -trash free soil I'd be looking for a 3khz.

I like a TGI meter. I know the drawbacks. The TDI #'s and notches will be better -for coins if you have a LF or MF coil.
So I'll be cutting some new ground (to make a pun) with my 705 HF.

Why so many HF choices compared to other frequencies?
Why bridge the narrow gap between the HF coils, while ignoring the LF coils completely?

Dying to do the confirmations myself. Perhaps the majority are looking for coins in trashy-mineralized ground and it's working...
Supply & Demand---usually dictate such things. Just thoughts off the top of my head. many more qualified to answer properly.
 
And don't get me wrong. Everyone should have an HF DD coil in their gearbag. And If I was buying a 705 right now, I'd buy the Gold Pack. But if I did that, whatever HF coil that came with it would likely be the only HF coil that I would own.

In terms of marketing, I would think it better to offer the Gold Pack with the 10.5" DD, and have the 6" DD as an accessory for those hunting in extreme trash or tot-lots. That way, they would more likely sell a second HF dd coil to those that want a tot-lot killer, and the engineers could be working on other needed coils.

Really, can you think of a good reason that the manufacturer offers three DD HF coils, one DD MF, and no DD LF? I find it hard to believe that there is sufficient demand for all three HF DD coils, to warrant virtually ignoring the developement of coils for other frequencies that this machine operates on.
It makes no sense to my simple mind.
 
morelic55 said:
The 10x5 will NOT go as deep as the (round)10.5DD 18.75. I have found that once you get use to the size/weight of the 10.5 coils, you will not use anything else to hunt with, after all it is the same design/size as the old Explorer coil................Mark

Reddog777 said:
Thanks for all of the replies on the 10'' x5'' coil. Will it detect as deep as the round DD coil?

Old Longhair said:
IMO, the 5x10 is a pointless coil.
Since it's not waterproof, it offers nothing over the 10.5" other than rather miniscule weight savings. As far as Randy's preferece for a soild coil, so as not to get hung up in brush/stubble? Easy. Just offer an accessory solid coil cover. If it doesn't go as deep as the 10.5", and the separation capability isn't remarkably better, and they have a high trash killer 6"DD which is waterproof, why bother with a 5x10? I can't for the life of me understand why MineLab felt the need to bridge such a narrow gap, especially when there are other coils that need designing for the X-Terra.

The round 10.5" HF(or MF) DD will go about 40% deeper than the 5x10" HF DD on coin sized objects.

But the 5x10" HF DD is not a pointless coil because it will go deeper than the 10.5" HF DD on very small gold nuggets less than about 1 gram, small gold earings, thin gold chains, and small thin gold rings.

The 5x10" HF DD with more coverage will handle bad mineralized ground better(less false signals) than the round 6" HF DD when gold prospecting.

But the 6" HF DD will find very, very tiny grain sized gold better and also has better trash separation than the 5x10" HF DD.

Hope this helps clear things up a bit.
 
I agree with David. The 5x10 has both the super sensitivity and ground coverage needed for prospecting. I prospect with the 5x10 until I find a patch/clean the patch out and then switch over to the 6" to recover the micro nugs. It's just another tool. There's really no way to cover enough ground with the 6" when looking for a new patch and the 10.5" DD HF will skip right over those small nugs. That being said, the 10.5" DD HF does go deeper on bigger targets and it would be worth while to hit a known area with all three coils in hopes of recovering ALL available targets.
 
I have tried the 5x10 and it is a good coil for "Exploring" a new relic site and in the bushes because of it's flat bottom. I just don't trust the water proof factor. With that said, I do use the 6"DD HF coil for "Micro Relic Hunting" as it is great for getting small buttons and bullets in high iron spots. I can imagine the bennies for gold and I would get one if I were to go out west and do that................Mark:minelab:
 
I guys, new here to the forum, but not to the 5X10 coil.
I have used the 5X10 for about four years, for the most part coin shooting, it has become my go to coil any time typical twist off beer bottle caps become prevalent.

In my soil it ground balances so well I get near the same depth as the stock 9"
It does loose some depth from my 10.5 dd 7.5 kHz but it is worth it because often where I hunt targets are 6-8" apart and the 10.5 just takes to much work to isolate a good target.

I don't leave home without it, a normal lunch hour often netted 13+/- good targets out of about 15 holes. I have moved up to a 705 so I hope it keeps working as well.
 
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