I have been going over the places I have detected with multi-tone and then detected with 2 tone ferrous. I can't believe how much 2-tone will pick up...I have found numerous more coins using by switching over.Now,the only thing I have noticed is I do lose some depth in 2-tone compared to multi-tone. Is this to be expected?
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2 tone vs. multi...
- Thread starter John C.65
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Goldmanjace
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Try using 4 tone. You think you are loosing dept because when objects are deeper the FE number can go down to 27 or even more on a coin and then you get a ton you would not dig in TTF. That is because the cut off line for TTF is 17 on the FE scale.
Crispy Critter
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Goldmanjace said:
Thanks for that info. I'd of never thunk it.
Ya gotta love this place....
2 and 4 tones on etrac is not finished product--some sort bonus that turns best detector in some simple ace250. multitone is absolutely winner, add some Long responds and you cant beat this detector in iorn. in multitones in ferrous or conductive sounds can blend not like in 2 tones or 4. hear minelab did poor job.
Goldmanjace
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I use manual sens not lower than 26. Sometimes deep off but most of the time on. I use noise cancel channel 2. When I hunt in 4tf I also go really slow and have my response set to normal. Thas is just how it works for me, it may be different for others. I do not use this often because I prefer these settings with mulit, conduct and sounds set to smooth. All other settings the same. I hope this helps.
I think you ALWAYS miss coins with any MD,,,, so to go back and find more is no surprise. But if you mean MANY more coins, that is a different colored horse. The change in tones should not effect depth, if your like me maybe you don't' fully grasp the multi tone thing and are just missing those coins at first then finding them in TTF.....multi is alot for my ears to digest and is taking some time to figure out for me at least,,,good luck and HHJohn C.65 said:
Goldmanjace
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Goes4ever said:
It is not that you would loose dept, it is just that sometimes under certain conditions (soil conditions) deep coins will have the FE value change drastically (into the lower 20's) therefore in TTF giving a coin a low grunt that one would not dig.
Goldmanjace
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hershey1 said:With less discrimination TTF seems to perform very well when I am in an area where I need to use it. I do not use TTF in parks. Parks have a lot of aluminum and shallow foil trash that is not a good hunting environment for TTF. JMHO HH
I normally ONLY hunt in mulit and conduct with manual sens. I will use 4TF in parks when I have the urge too. I use the CO number (I normally never use numbers, only in the 4TF) to decide if it is worth digging. You can clearly tell what is a pulltab for instance. I will dig anything that has a CO of 34 upwards no matter what the FE is in that case, especially when it is deep (in 4TF).
The thing is, whenever using ferrous that is exactly the tone you hear that will be given. That will be the FE value tone. So if you have a deep coin that will come in at 27\43 in TTF you WILL NOT dig it because it will give you a iron signal, that is a fact. That is why I use the 4 tone and sometimes use my CO value number to decide if it is worth digging. It works!
Southwind
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That might explain why I have yet to see any advantage to using TTF.
I've tried it many times only to get just as much iron false signals from TTF as I do fromultitt-tone. It may work on the more shallow iron(less than 6") but the iron false signals I get at 8" or more still gives a false positive in TTF. At least in multi-tone O can teltheeh difference by the high tink instead of the smoother tone of a good target.
I've tried it many times only to get just as much iron false signals from TTF as I do fromultitt-tone. It may work on the more shallow iron(less than 6") but the iron false signals I get at 8" or more still gives a false positive in TTF. At least in multi-tone O can teltheeh difference by the high tink instead of the smoother tone of a good target.
I use TTF on Etrac and explorer all the time, but TTF is still not 2 or 4 tones is more multi but with very little sounds differences, like on old explorers. for me TTF its better instead conductive with very little discrimination, less falsing on Iron and I know when to slow down or lower manual sensitivity by listening all targets and not using threshold annoying sounds.
another interesting fact that Etrac suggested auto sensitivity bar all the time very close to my manual sensitivity-what I make my self in different situations, looks like auto sensitivity works very simple and can be very effective for people who is new to this detector.
another interesting fact that Etrac suggested auto sensitivity bar all the time very close to my manual sensitivity-what I make my self in different situations, looks like auto sensitivity works very simple and can be very effective for people who is new to this detector.
Southwind
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The auto sensitivity debate is another thing I think depends more on your conditions. I have found deep coins that made little or no sound in auto +3 but sounded good in manual, and I've found deep coins that made little or no sound in manual that sounded good in auto +3.
About the only way to really SEE a difference in multi-tone and TTF settings is for two E-Trac hunters go to a site where an old home or other farm structure has been destroyed by fire. These sites have a multitude of nails and other iron targets. First hunt in multi-tone and then go back over in TTF. My experience has been that I have found more quality targets in less time using TTF. Now this only means I have more confidence in TTF in that situation at that particular site. The E-Trac is the only machine that has all these options for the user thereby giving all these great opinions. How about pitch&hold. HH
E-Trac-Ohio
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I've spent approx. 1500 hrs. in the field with my machine - approx. 1000 to 1200 hrs. of these hours running in 2TF - I've never noticed any loss of depth - pulled silver dimes at 8 to 9 inches a bunch of times - and that's with a 6" Excellerator coil.
I've returned to many junkie sites that I originally hunted in Multi-Tones and made some real nice finds by going over the same ground in 2TF.
I'd have to say that at least 80% of the sites I returned to and hunted in 2TF gave up good finds that I missed the first time around.
I just hunt nice and slow - and wiggle in on any good targets - if the numbers look good and there's no - or very little bounce - I dig it.
Everyone has their own opinions on how they like to program their machines - it's what ever works the best for you - but as far as I'm concerned - hunting low and slow in 2TF in junkie ground is the only way to go.
HH --- Mark
I've returned to many junkie sites that I originally hunted in Multi-Tones and made some real nice finds by going over the same ground in 2TF.
I'd have to say that at least 80% of the sites I returned to and hunted in 2TF gave up good finds that I missed the first time around.
I just hunt nice and slow - and wiggle in on any good targets - if the numbers look good and there's no - or very little bounce - I dig it.
Everyone has their own opinions on how they like to program their machines - it's what ever works the best for you - but as far as I'm concerned - hunting low and slow in 2TF in junkie ground is the only way to go.
HH --- Mark