A theory on new finds in hunted out areas...

[Beyonder]

We have all experienced it. You goto a place u hit 1000 times and all the sudden, u find a good target and think, how did I miss that?

I have found an:
1886 indian at 2 inches.
1914 barber dime at 3 inches
SLQ at 3 inches next to a root in the middle of a park about is small as 2 tractor trailers side by side

All these coins were in parks that have been pounded to death. How do I know they have? Because there was hardly(cept pennys) any clad left.

Another crazy day. We hunted a war memorial that we snailed crawled about 5 times, the place is 53 feet square. We are talking small places here. Anyway, the soil was sandy and it was late Sept of 2011. I didnt want to go, but my dad wanted to stop just for a lil bit.

My first find was a 1918 merc 5 inches. I was shocked because U can walk for ten feet without a sound in all metal. Then a pull tab, and 4 inches down in another dig, a 1901 indian. I was like, what is going on here. 2 mins later and about 30 feet away from me, my dad also finds his 1st indian, the date? 1901.

I goto the front of the memorial and I get a 12-50(my etrac issue). I dig and its a 4 inch 1964 quarter. At this point my father accuses me of planting the stuff. Im starting to get tired so I head towards the truck and I get a pocket spill at 3 inches of 2 quarters, 1944 and 1941. At this point Im in deep shock I know I hit these areas before. I decided to walk back and I get a 2 inch nickel signal, I thought in my head I bet its a V, it was a 1906 V.

How did this happen? My first thought was that someone planted these here. But the soil and condition of the coins made my rethink that. Could those coins have been there all the while and we missed them?

And then my dad came up with the tumbling coin theory:

A coin is dropped and is flat.
It rains and there is a small depression next to the coin and the coin is now at an angle.
Then as the coin sinks, the softer earth gives way and we have a coin on its side. At this stage, a coin on its side is tough to hit if your not at the right angle.
Now, due to frost, the ground contracts pinching the coin and when it expands, ot causes the coin to be back at an angle and so on.

In areas where there is no frost, it may be just soft earth and moisture.

The war memorial is sandy, so we thought that the coins may have turned so we got a better hit on them.

Just a thought.

Bey

 

[LabradorBob]

I have done that! Different moisture conditions can make a big difference!

LabradorBob

 

[Bowie]

Yes, but look at the depths they found the coins. And not much trash in the ground. Like he said, sounds fishy. Dunno about the tumbling coin theory,very possible but not probable.
Do you think its possible, they may have brought some dirt in from another area, after the first times you hunted that place?? I know,Ive seen times at places like that, where a little upkeep involved dirt work, just sayin.
If so, Id like to know where the soil came from,lol.
Go to Tom Dankowskis web site and read an article he wrote on coins/jewelry sinking. Mainly about a beach, but it can apply inland as well.
Thanks for your article, does make you scratch your head.
John

 

[banditicey]

A Dream Come True

Any chance we can see pictures?

I had a similar experience when the Fill Dirt in a local park came from the Old High School
I believe we/myself and several others from our local MD club, found around 20 Silvers in that field
There were Merc's, Washington's and Rosey's and several foreign Silver Coins
They were also very shallow..It was a DREAM

 

[Southwind]

I tend to believe it happens from having masking trash eventually going away making the coin signal detectable.

For example a piece of rusted iron next to or on a good coin will mask it or at least make it sound like trash. Over time the rust will eat it away to the point where the coiout-signalsls the trash. I think this explains how some of these signals seem to just appear in areas that have been throughly search.

 

[markg]

"I goto the front of the memorial and I get a 12-50(my etrac issue). I dig and its a 4 inch 1964 quarter."

Ops, I got a 12-50 yesterday and passed it by. Now I'm wondering.

 

[greedykind]

That is a very interesting answer southwind.I like it

 

[jimz49]

I've always believed that the ground is dynamic not static. Here in the north where I live, we go through freeze thaw cycles every winter. For those that live where the ground freezes, did you ever notice how the ground pushes itself up when frozen and then flattens back down as it thaws (dynamic movement). Depending on the frost line (how deep the freeze goes) determines the zone in which objects move. Each year the frost line can vary. The length of time that the ground remains frozen varies also. Thus the depth of the zone and the amount of movement within the zone varies. Not only coins but small items like stones, etc move up and down in this zone.

 

[Blank Planet]

everything is moving everywhere nothing stays still

how do coins get 10" 8" 6" in to the ground? are they sinking or is the ground moving or a bit of both? which ever is true something is moving does a coin go to say 4" and stop moving? can it come back up? can the earth push a coin up? can objects in the ground move sideways?

so many questions , maybe some one can tag a coin and follow it with a GPS see its movements now that would be kool.

lovin everyones answers

blank planet

 

[scoper]

Hi Bey,i think your dad has a valid point.The ground is never static......all sorts of different processes occur to help targets move around.Thats why even on pasture coins can sink out of reach even over a short period of time.I've found screwed up balls of foil at surprising depths on pasture.....it must have got deep over a short period of time.....so the ground must be moving quite a bit.Place a coin on a specific point in your yard and leave it there.Keep checking it and i think you'll be suprised how fast it disappears.Great post.