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Amazing find in trashy pumpkin patch...anything is possible

Barry NY

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Last Friday I had a couple of hours to kill so I stopped by this trashy pumpkin patch that sits on a main road not far from my house.
From my old map research it appears this 3 acre property has been farmed since settlement began and sits surrounded by developed lots.

I'm sure it's been pounded to death over the years and the fact that every step has your detector beeping like crazy probably keeps most of the regulars away.
I was practicing using my new 12x15 SEF that day so a trashy site is not exactly the place you would be looking to use a coil like that.

After about 15 minutes of hearing tones (everywhere I stepped) I decided to focus only on high tones with good repeatable signals.
I picked up a dime and a round item that was cut in half. Not rubbing either in the field I placed them in my pocket and finished up my detecting.
The dime turned out to be a 1952 Rosie (always nice to find silver) and the cut object turned out to be.....well you can see by the pictures - a 1759 Carolus III 8 reales silver dollar - only minted from 1759 to 1788 - I can clearly make out the 9 and the number next to it looks like a 3 or 5 so it has to be a 1759 based on the minting dates - and, as was the custom up until the mid-1800's, 8 reales silver dollars were sometimes cut into 8 bits hence the name "pieces of eight" and the term "two bits" - we've all come to understand - would be a quarter (2/8 = 1/4)...so it looks like I have myself a really cool half-dollar....

I added a shot of a similar "full" coin from the internet (same coin - different date) to give you some perspective on what this coin would have looked like. I cleaned it up some but basically left this 8 reales in pretty much tarnished condition - don't know if I really want to have it shined up. In person you can make out the detail quite well - the picture doesn't do it justice.

Moral of the story - you never know what you're gonna find, especially in a plowed field, with tons of trash that's been hunted to death. That ETRAC can really smell the silver. HH.
 
sweet find congrats!! what a phenomenal machine the etrac is.
 
With a handle like "oldcoins" - you really are confused....what do you do when you find something interesting and you don't know what it is?
i hit my books or the internet to identify it....

i specifically wrote that the shot doesn't do it justice....and the picture I added of an internet coin was there for some perspective...
show us some of your 1759 JUNK that you found around your town - i'm interested in seeing it.
 
Wow, Great Find! See what happens when you turn a Gold Love N' Pirate lose in the Pumpkin Patch, he still finds Treasures! Thanks for sharing, always a great story behind every hunt ........Joe
 
I have none but what thing that I know for sure, and may be you do not know is that silver do not deteriorate in the ground and stay the same as it enter.Unless you can present a correct picture instead of a black ghost against a beautiful coin your story is kind of funny.
I must say this is very clever.Everybody is looking at the coin that you picked from the internet and not at your dark coin that can be anything .Wake up guys.:surprised:
 
Awesome find and you're right you never know what shows up in the hunted out areas. I took the liberty of lighting your photo's up a bit. Hope you don't mind.

HH
DJH
 
"I was practicing using my new 12x15 SEF that day so a trashy site is not exactly the place you would be looking to use a coil like that."



Nice finds!!
Lately, I have been using my 15x12 SEF on trashy, hunted out city parks. I am amazed at the target separation this coil has. I've got silver 3 out of my last 4 trips in these very trashy "hunted out" areas. I have the 8x6 SEF, but seldom use it cause the 15x12 and the 12x10 seem to give me all the target separation I need in 90% of the areas I hunt.
 
I've dug lots of silver, especially in old drained lakes that gets quite black. And it's nearly impossible to get the stain off of it. Make sure you know what you're talking about before you post and embarrass yourself next time. (If I even allow you the chance next time...) I just might get up and go scan some of mine and let you call me a liar too...

Guvner..
 
Doesn't look all that much like it must have looked when it went in the ground...

[attachment 147177 1907barber.jpg]

Good hunting...

G...
 
Amazing find Barry! Great job and congrats! Thank you for the comparison to the complete original as well as I would not have known what it looks like.It's definately not a piece of junk.To''Old coins'',you apparently do not know much about your namesake with a comment like that which I thought was rather rude.
 
Thanks DJH for the photoshop work. And thanks Guvner for stepping in.

I probably could cook it in the electrolysis setup for a few minutes to see if that shines it up - but i think it's kinda neat in its current state.

I'm hoping to find a good field where they will let all you guys come here to Long Island and have a ball finding some of this 1700's stuff.

Thanks again for looking everyone. Barry.
 
That is an awesome find!!! And I would leave it alone and in its current state! That patina is as much a part of that coin's history, as the fact that it is cut in half to make it a half dollar. Great story!!! Makes me want to head out to the pumpkin patches near my house........
 
i hunt a spot where sulphur springs were a big attraction a hundred years ago, and most of the silver i dig comes out as black as coal.

silver is resistant to corrosion, but not impervious. furthermore, any buried item is subject various degrees of encrustation.

no need to 'go negative' on this post...i can see enough detail on that "dark coin that can be anything" to be convinced it is what he says it is.

why would barryny lie about it? p.s.- i'm WIDE AWAKE! :rolleyes:
 
I totally agree the coin is what it is. I have also found coins that have been stained black so bad they looked like tar chips. I also have found silver with a heavy encrustation of gray gunk, almost like they had been dipped in gray paint and baked in an oven. Had to use electrolicis to see that they actually was silver. Good find I would say. Just my take.

HH BiLL IL
 
I dug a 1899 Barber dime that was black on both sides, it was close to being under a pine tree, I did clean it up with baking powder.
The Silver ring was black, dug a on a lake beach in the sand that had been under water until the lake went down, cleaned it the same way.

I have seen others find black silver...

I use Vinegar and table salt to clean nickels, and lemon juice to clean silver,,made the mistake of putting a 1877 seated quarter in the vinegar, it turned black, I cleaned it with baking powder, but its not as good as it once was...

HH...Bj
 
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