i have xterra 305. this unit only has 2 id segments / 2 tones covering the high range including copper coins and silver coins, which means i cant differentiate silver, which means i have to dig all the low value coppers to find silver. this is not so good in parks. is there a machine which has good silver id to avoid diggin coppers?
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best machine for silver?
- Thread starter teviotlad
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Larry (IL)
Well-known member
At the top of the list of many great silver detectors is the Minelab E-Trac, Explorer SE and the White's V series. My deep silver "go to" is the SE with the V3i a close second.
what "copper coins" are you hoping to differentiate from silver coins? If you mean large cents, then no, they read too high, and will mimic silver coins. But if you meant small cents (wheaties), then be aware that they are very difficult to tell apart from silver dimes. Yes you can tell silver quarters and halves apart from pennies with a lot of TID machines, but pennies to dimes is a much closer range on the TID scale.
The Explorers (especially the Exp II), as Larry says, is a good machine for TID's at depth. And I actually found the Whites Eagle SLII to be good at differentiating silver dimes from copper pennies. But the depth isn't what explorers get, and ... of course ... those clear-cut TID differences start to fade when you add depth and/or minerals to the soil.
But for turf-hunting, if you put a lot of time into the Exp. II to gain audio experience (listening for the particular "fluty" high pitch), it will almost get to where you can call the difference between silver and copper.
Be aware that this is for if you're talking places where the depths and ages are stratified (which is how turf generally is). But if you're talking other types sites (plowed fields, the beach, relic sites, etc..) where depth has no correlation to age, then all bets are off. You're going to have to dig the pennies if you want the silver dimes.
The Explorers (especially the Exp II), as Larry says, is a good machine for TID's at depth. And I actually found the Whites Eagle SLII to be good at differentiating silver dimes from copper pennies. But the depth isn't what explorers get, and ... of course ... those clear-cut TID differences start to fade when you add depth and/or minerals to the soil.
But for turf-hunting, if you put a lot of time into the Exp. II to gain audio experience (listening for the particular "fluty" high pitch), it will almost get to where you can call the difference between silver and copper.
Be aware that this is for if you're talking places where the depths and ages are stratified (which is how turf generally is). But if you're talking other types sites (plowed fields, the beach, relic sites, etc..) where depth has no correlation to age, then all bets are off. You're going to have to dig the pennies if you want the silver dimes.
TerraDigger
New member
E-Trac...lower price range...the Teknetics Omega.
I have the AT PRO and the Omega. I strongly prefer the AT PRO...less prone to EMI, water proof, better in iron, equal in depth performance in my ground, and a better overall value...IMO. Omega high tone is weak to my ears...and stock coil does a poor job on rusty bottle caps...AT PRO does better on them in iron audio mode. Omega ergonomics are better...you can swing it all day...AT PRO with the upgrade is improved.
My silver finds increased with the AT PRO...same sites.
My silver finds increased with the AT PRO...same sites.
Minelabs are certainly the best for finding those old deep silver coins.
If you're on a bit of a budget, I would wholly recommend the Tesoro Golden uMax fro coin shooting.
Forget the notch discrimination. Just set it low for your best depth and dig the high tones only.
It will hit hard on silver and clad coins if thye are there.
The only junk you'll dig will be whole crushed aluminum cans, which would overwhelm most detectors with a false signal.
The only pennies you will dig are the older copper pennies. Not that there are many of those left to find these days. But you will bypass every "zincoln" out there.
The one silver you'll likely sacrifice are nickels because those hit at the mid tone. If you want the nickels, use your notch discrimination to kick out the pulltabs and presevre the nickels.
Its not hard to do.
If you're on a bit of a budget, I would wholly recommend the Tesoro Golden uMax fro coin shooting.
Forget the notch discrimination. Just set it low for your best depth and dig the high tones only.
It will hit hard on silver and clad coins if thye are there.
The only junk you'll dig will be whole crushed aluminum cans, which would overwhelm most detectors with a false signal.
The only pennies you will dig are the older copper pennies. Not that there are many of those left to find these days. But you will bypass every "zincoln" out there.
The one silver you'll likely sacrifice are nickels because those hit at the mid tone. If you want the nickels, use your notch discrimination to kick out the pulltabs and presevre the nickels.
Its not hard to do.
TerraDigger
New member
Eric, just curious. What do you consider a poor job (describe) on bottlecaps by the Omega stock coil...and how is the AT Pro superior (describe) in this regard?
Actually, I misspoke...the stock coil on the Omega does a fine job with ID on bottle caps...it is the 11" DD coil that will ID them as coins...visual and audio. That is not unusual for DD coils. The AT PRO will give a distinctive low high low audio response on them...very useful.
Don't get me wrong, I like the Omega...I still have it. I mostly use it in trashy sites with the 5" DD coil...it will still hit coins at 6 or 7"...fast response and very good target separation. In the field, it will hit a dime at 9" or so with the big coil, so it does have some punch. At sites with no EMI, it will hunt plenty deep...wide open sensitivity. I use the D1 audio mode exclusiively...it is distinctive on the deep targets.
Don't get me wrong, I like the Omega...I still have it. I mostly use it in trashy sites with the 5" DD coil...it will still hit coins at 6 or 7"...fast response and very good target separation. In the field, it will hit a dime at 9" or so with the big coil, so it does have some punch. At sites with no EMI, it will hunt plenty deep...wide open sensitivity. I use the D1 audio mode exclusiively...it is distinctive on the deep targets.
TerraDigger
New member
Thanks Eric. I agree with your assessment. See my Omega 5" coil nasty bottlecap post. Applies to 11" DD also.
Jason in Enid
Active member
teviotlad said:
The E-Trac is the best silver finder there is, but if you try to skip over "copper" you will miss MOST of the silver. If they give off such a perfect silver signal, they will mostly have already been found.
earthmansurfer
Active member
I think a part of the reasoning would be your ground. I have owned the Omega, V3i and now the E-Trac.In my iron mineralized ground the E-Trac is best by a couple of inches at least, in particular regarding the stability of the VID numbers.
If your ground is Neutral with no iron mineralization, the Omege goes pretty deep. I preferred the V3i over the E-Trac as far as the controls (buttons), beautiful screen and Great backlight, 3 freq pinpoint and shortcuts. The E-Trac was .8 pounds lighter though.
Good luck,
EMS
If your ground is Neutral with no iron mineralization, the Omege goes pretty deep. I preferred the V3i over the E-Trac as far as the controls (buttons), beautiful screen and Great backlight, 3 freq pinpoint and shortcuts. The E-Trac was .8 pounds lighter though.
Good luck,
EMS