I remember when youposted that find under the bottle cap. Was it the SE or the XS machine?FIELD TEST: I took the Manticore to the beach Saturday for it's first field test. It was a Manticore vs Explorer SE Pro hunt with my buddy using my SE Pro with my settings. I found the Manticore surprisingly simple to use. I selected the default Beach mode, upped the sensitivity at 25 and ran in All Metal. During the hunt I really did nothing but ground balance and noise cancel. It was a bit noisy with the sensitivity at 25, no shortage of blips of salt/mineralization falsing but that's how I run the SE Pro I'm used to it.
SETTINGS: The Manticore has a LOT of configurable settings. That concerned me. Prior field tests confirmed you can screw up E-Trac and CTX settings to the point that they can't get a signal on targets that are screaming on the SE Pro. The Explorer SE Pro is pretty much foolproof when it comes to settings. In all cases the users were able to adjust/fix their settings and the E-Trac and CTX were able to get just as good a signal as I was getting on my SE Pro, once I pointed out the target and let them listen via the SE Pro. The Manticore? It hit deep targets the whole hunt while the SE Pro struggled so check.
SITE CONDITIONS: Torture test. We drove out onto the north end which was horribly sanded in 3 weeks ago, there was a big trough eroded out upper mid-beach parallel to the water. The hump of sand between the trough and lower beach was like 30 inches high with a cliff on the lower side of the trough. The water had dug a big hole in the beach basically. Unfortunately, this put us much closer to the thick layer of magnetic black sand, it was only 2nd scoop down. Worse all the heavier targets were deep in that black sand layer, with more black sand beneath them. Most of the targets I dug were a minimum 2 scoops deep, frequently 3 scoops, a few more. I have a 6x12 inch scoop and I was digging straight down.
Manticore Dark Magic #01 - Co-located targets, this is the strange realm of detector weirdness. Take crown cap/silver co-located targets. The crown caps above older deeper silver. Silver hiding in the umbrella of crown cap target signal. I observed something quite strange on the SE Pro one day. I had crown caps notched out because dang they were everywhere at this site and I was sick of them. Running ferrous tones they were giving high tones like silver. With the crown cap textbook 'pop' as the coil came off the crown cap but I was just tired of listening to the things. Then...a crown cap managed to rise just above my notched out area. It was way down below silver, still very much in crown cap territory. Switched to all metal and BAM the target ID dropped down square into crown cap territory. Switched back and walked away about 3 steps then said, wait a minute...come on no crown cap sounds quite that good. Went back and observed the same thing again. In all metal textbook crown cap. Notch out the crown cap and the target ID uplifted in the direction of silver, but no where near the silver ID locations. SE Pro users know both crown caps and big silver (quarters, half dollars, dollars, large cents) all ID with half the cursor off the right edge of the screen, and are located vertically up/down the right edge depending on the target.
- Manticore bested Explorer SE Pro. The 2nd scoop of sand was BLACK with the black sand and more black sand below it. All the heavy targets were sitting in that stuff. Even quarters down in that black sand were heavily impacted by the black sand on the Manticore. The tone was black sand/quarter mixed, not great to down right ugly signals on the Manticore but diggable. I dug a bunch of quarters at that depth, the Explorer SE Pro dug none. Just like inland the SE Pro struggles to punch through that black sand.
- Crown Cap Tone Shape - Confirmed, you can hear the crimped crown cap ridges in the tone, nice. On the SE Pro you can hear some shape to the ridges (sometimes) but it's less defined. Manticore has high definition tone shape, SE Pro low definition tone shape.
- Target Trace - The target trace screen is quite interesting. Watching the crown caps especially false from iron (top) to crown cap (bottom/left) with some smearing across the coin area (middle). Hard to imagine ever digging a crown cap with that much target info. More on target trace below.
- ML 105 Headphones - Quite comfortable. Love the wireless. But I need to test a pair of my Sunray Gold headphones because the quality of the tones was lacking. A bit oil drum, thin, tinny. I don't know if that's the ML 105's or just the Manticore tones. For example I couldn't hear much difference between silver and clad coins during testing. On the SE Pro silver has that bit of extra in the tones that tells you silver. Not sure I heard any bell like tones or silver ringing during testing now that I think about it.
- Depth even in this black sand mess, excellent. It took two hands to drag some scoops back out of the hole, that kind of depth.
- Overall - Great beach machine!
So I dug a plug, on the bottom/center of this plug was the crown cap. Went in the hole with my X1 probe and it was screaming silver. Below this crown cap was a Barber half dollar, also centered. My theory is in all metal the crown cap portion of the signal was so large relative to the silver hiding below that the machine software opted to ID it as textbook crown cap. But with the crown cap portion of the signal notched out e.g. ignored, what was left was a bit of silver through the thick fog of notched out crown cap which pulled the ID down out of the silver area.
The target trace on the Manticore (unlike the SE Pro) puts a LOT of space between silver targets and crown cap targets and it's not on the same axis. That's very good news. If it's getting both crown cap and silver target info, it will be easier to spot what's going on. The only question is, will the Manticore behave like the SE Pro in all metal, will the crown cap completely drown out the silver below it. I'll have to do some testing both ways. There's a zillion crown caps out there polluting sites, with good targets hiding under them. This Manticore gadget made just sniff them out.