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Estimating Tree Age when looking for older sites

gitterdug

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One of the things I love to do, is hunt older sites, mainly in the country. Here in Texas around my particular area (DFW), we don't go past about 1850's. In the country, driving around, I am always on the lookout for old homesites. I watch along creeks for rocks, vegetation, remnants of log cabins, etc., but from a distance, the biggest thing I see most of the time, are the out of place trees, built into a row, or a square, or by nature of their species, out of place.

Have you ever wondered about how to determine the age of a tree in the field? We can guestimate.....oh, a big ol' oak tree is 150 years, or a thick mesquite tree is 75 years, etc.

I stumbled across the following information and thought it might be of some value to someone on here, if for nothing else, than to help narrow down a site's age.....circa 1930 vs circa 1850. So, I hope this helps someone. I have this on my iphone and use it sometimes.

Finally, how do you folks determine ages of vegetation?



The Tree Aging Formula

Begin by determining the tree species and taking a diameter measurement (or circumference measurement) using a tape measure at Diameter Breast Height or 4.5 feet above stump level. If you are using circumference, you will need to make this calculation to determine the tree diameter: Diameter = Circumference divided by 3.14 (pi) I use the Audubon Field Guides app for my iphone to determine species if I am not sure, and there are a lot of apps out there.

Then calculate the age of the tree by multiplying the tree's diameter by its growth factor (see below): Diameter X Growth Factor = Approximate Tree Age. Let's use the hickory above to calculate age. A shagbark hickory's growth factor has been determined to be 7.5 and its diameter is 10 inches: 10 inch diameter X 7.5 growth factor = 75 years. Remember that the growth factors I provide are more accurate when taken for forest grown trees.

Growth Factors by Tree Species

Red Maple Species - 4.5 Growth Factor X diameter
Silver Maple Species - 3.0 Growth Factor X diameter
Sugar Maple Species - 5.0 Growth Factor X diameter
River Birch Species - 3.5 Growth Factor X diameter
White Birch Species - 5.0 Growth Factor X diameter
Shagbark Hickory Species - 7.5 Growth Factor X diameter
Green Ash Species - 4.0 Growth Factor X diameter
Black Walnut Species - 4.5 Growth Factor X diameter
Black Cherry Species - 5.0 Growth Factor X diameter
Red Oak Species - 4.0 Growth Factor X diameter
White Oak Species - 5.0 Growth Factor X diameter
Pin Oak Species - 3.0 Growth Factor X diameter
Basswood Species - 3.0 Growth Factor X diameter
American Elm Species - 4.0 Growth Factor X diameter
Ironwood Species - 7.0 Growth Factor X diameter
Cottonwood Species - 2.0 Growth Factor X diameter
Redbud Species - 7.0 Growth Factor
Dogwood Species - 7.0 Growth Factor X diameter
Aspen Species - 2.0 Growth Factor X diameter

Perhaps this is overkill for some folks, but when I am looking for that one special site to hunt, I want to know the site's age going in. At 60, in my overall physical health, I ain't diggin 9000 holes needlessly. I like the oldest sites I can get to, and though I don't always use this information, I do use it. LOL Chew the Cambium, spit the bark.
 
I like your thinking. I often look at area's undeveloped within parts of towns. I can't for the life of me figure out why the trees are bigger than what they should be?
BCNJ
 
Thanks for this information. I'm sure it will be helpful to not only me, but to many other people (those who actually take notes of it lol). I have quiet a few sites that have really big trees that just from looking at them I would guess to be 100+ years old with some 200+ years old. I might be able to come up with the approximate age of some of these trees now. Thanks. :thumbup:
 
good info. I would recommend picking up Reading the forested landscape or Forest Forensics by Tom Wessel when I am out in the woods I try to use his advice to read what happened in the past in the area that I am detecting.
 
Great info! Thanks!
 
It's ironic you posted this just in time for me to see the largest registered tree in my county in the Live Oak Family. I saw this Oak Tree for the first time today and using this formula I came up with that it is anywhere from 259 years old to 324 years old. To bad I didn't detect around it. It looks promising.
 
Good post - I never thought of putting this info. in the forum !

I cut timber for a living so I always look at how old the trees are when I hunt a site, without even thinking about it.
It's also a good idea to look at where the root flare meets the ground - this will tell you if there's been any changes made to grade / dirt level.
Around big tree is always a good place to hunt - a lot of people sit under them to get out of the sun or other bad weather or just use them as a back rest.
I've made some pretty nice finds under real big old trees over the last few years.

Thanks again for the post !
 
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Gitter , I don't think our forefathers were watering and fertilizing the trees in their field
 
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