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Finding wheat's but no silver

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banditicey

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It seems lately that many areas we detect at dont have any wheat's
So when we do find wheat's at a location we/husband and I, always think there's a silver to come
he is more convinced than I am that the silver is there because we are finding wheat's
We have been detecting several old parks and we just keep getting wheat's and no silver
Do you all believe there is a ratio of wheat's to silver when detecting? What are your experiences?
HH
 
-Pennies don't sink as fast as silver coins do, and would not be as deep.

-My soil is mineralized red clay, and I am having trouble getting deeper than 5 inches, as my auto sensitivity, even at +3 averages at 15. What is yours?
If so mineralization is probably the problem. Difficult ground setting doesn't even help me.

-How deep are you finding actual coins? A lot of the deep stuff I find is larger than a coin because of #2

-Try tree skirts, roots, and rock outcroppings as the soil is shallow and the coins can rest on the rock or root. That is how I found a 80 year old sterling broach.

-Pick better sites. Less junky areas. I like really old apartment buildings and curbsides.

-Try the 5-6 inch sniper coils. The short diameter gets you between junk better. I had one on my 305 and loved it. I have heard great things about the ones on the ETrac.

-If mineralization is your real problem, some of us are beginning to wonder if we shouldn't be using a Gold Bug or something else...

-Move to a Midwest farm. I am considering it with all the deep silver guys are finding there with ETracs.
 
what do you have your ground setting on have you seen the video on ground setting normal and ground settimg difficult???????????????
 
I'm always on ground difficult, sadly I have not noticed my level of auto sensitivity but I will
I'm considering going back to manual or just use other programs that Iv seen on the forum
Ive considered the cherry picking but last year i found my first 1810 large cent at one of
the local old parks..a real surprise and at a tree skirt area!
I did not realize about the silver sinking faster than pennies
My E trac has located coins greater than 10 inches but I dont recall what program I was on
when I found the deep silver coins
Thanks for all the comments and suggestions
HH
 
I don't know if there is a ratio that holds true. Just happens to be what you swing your coil over and what hasn't been taken out of a site by other hunters. Yesterday I hit a park and found 8 wheats and 8 silver. That's an aberration and I'd say more often it's something like 6 wheats to 1 silver for me. Just depends on the location, past hunting there and what's left to be found.
 
Last year I was running a little over 3 wheats per each silver. I finally broke a silver drought went about 20+ wheats and 5 IH's and finally found a silver barber. So you never know.

It certainly does make sense that more pennies were lost than anything else. It also makes sense that more dimes were lost than anything 100 years ago. The dime was the perfect denomination for what it bought you back then. Much like the dollar bill is/was....at least back in the 70's when I was a kid. If you had a dollar in your pocket back then, you could buy quite a bit of candy/pop and still have money left over. A dime lost in 1900 would be equivalent to over $2.50 dollars today.

NebTrac
 
looking back over my metal detecting log, i found the ratio of wheats to silver coins (any silver coin) is about 5 to 1. on average! sometimes its 35 wheats to 2 silver, sometimes its 3 wheats to 3 silver, etc...sometimes its nothin to nothin. :nerd:

i agree moreso on the possibility of silver to come based on pressure from other detectorists throughout the past. (ie if you found a wheat penny, no other detectorist ever found that wheat). once you find a coin, its gone forever (from the ground). so id say its almost like an indicator of pressure.
 
since getting the etrac I average 4.5 wheats to every silver, and I do not think silver sinks faster, coins in my area are all average depth regardless of being copper of silver. This season I have dug 346 wheats and 85 silver, that gives me a ratio of 4.07 wheats to every silver

If there is wheats in an area I am a FIRM believer there is silver close by. I do NOT believe all silver can be cherry picked, so many silver dimes register EXACTLY like wheat pennies, again today I dug a barber dime that was a solid 12-43, I thought I was digging a wheat. Was pleasantly surprised to see the barber dime!
 
I am having similar experiences except I am finding memorials by the bucket loads rarely finding wheats and even more rare silver. I live in Minnesota and I think most parks have been hunted hard for several years and this is in old parks. Thus far I have found two silver Rosies and a 1961 silver washington. I have found several hundred memorials followed closely by clad dimes and then quarters. Nickels are the rarest find for me although I recently found an 1882 shield nickel and five gold and silver rings. My clad count this year is around sixty dollars. I hunt every chance I get and carry my detector with me at all times. Any tips for increasing my silver count and I am all ears.
 
Yes, I have hope
I definitely find it interesting find out your personal ratio of wheat's to silver this year
It is great if someone has a large enough amount of both to make a good "guesstimate"
Where are you located? East Coast, right?!

Today we went to Erie PA and I detected at a park near a railroad for 4 hours
I was ready to go because I was finding nothing even after using some suggestions included in this topic
Suddenly I began to find 7 wheat's from the 40's and 50's one at a time, I also found a clad quarter and a Sunoco aluminum token

I asked a homeowner what he knew about the park and he believed it was 30 years old and built with landfill
I was told this as I finished and was walking to my car

I guess I proved him wrong, now what about that silver!

HH
 
Like others have posted above - Wheat Cents out number silver by a fairly large amount - same as today - there are more cents lost than any other coins.
Also, the further you go back in time - the more value larger coins had - silver coins must have been closely guarded years ago.

I like Wheat Cents for two reasons - they date the site your hunting - where ever you find Wheat's - you know there's a good chance you'll be able to find some silver.
Second - Wheat's are kind of a consolation prize - I'd rather leave a site with some old coins - than none at all.

Good luck finding some more old silver this season !
 
sometimes you have to have slow days, thats what makes the good days "good". sometimes i go out and dont come back with anything. not one single coin. thats just part of the game. i know if i woulda tried a different area i might have hit something, you never know. but you have to be confident that if there is anything out there, you are capable of finding it. (next time) we've all felt frustrated at one time or another. those hunts dont make the board. we've all been there.
 
Actually thinking about this some more....one way to get your silver count up...well, this is what i do, the way i think...i avoid parks. i avoid anything that looks obvious from a "drive-by"...some of the best areas are not obvious. if you can research old maps, old books, history books, use the internet, old pictures, there are clues to areas that had activity back in the old days that you would never guess nowadays that anything ever happened there. i also like to try areas with interesting geologic features such as natural lakes, creeks/rivers, ridges, where people would come to and walk around for whatever reason. this is a tactic to find areas that "our" predecessors (other detectorists past and present)...might have missed or hit lightly. in my opinion parks are just too obvious. finding the spot without all the pressure is the key for my style of detecting. in my mind almost ALL of the "easy" stuff is gone. once a silver coin is dug, its dug forever and it will never come back. the last place id detect is right in the middle field/play area of a park. i know people still find a lot of good, deep stuff in parks. its just not the style that i choose. i hate digging clad. reseaching old areas, looking for hints to potential spots, is as much fun as detecting is to me. im pretty hardcore and will take a physical beating when i detect. if you can find some of these out of the way, never detected areas, you can find things you wont beleive, my last silver find a week ago was a 1902 barber quarter and it was laying on the surface under some leaves. think outside the box. think like other detectorists would think, but then do something different.

im NOT saying any style of detecting is right or wrong. im sure people that hunt parks might take offense but that is not what i mean. im just saying my mentality is to avoid "past" competetition. its almost impossible it seems. i guess this comes from using a weaker detector for so many years. maybe my mindset will change once i start to really understand the etrac(?)
 
well said moonshine, I agree I dislike parks strongly, I only go to them when I have absolutely no where to go, or short on time
 
Goes4ever said:
since getting the etrac I average 4.5 wheats to every silver, and I do not think silver sinks faster, coins in my area are all average depth regardless of being copper of silver. This season I have dug 346 wheats and 85 silver, that gives me a ratio of 4.07 wheats to every silver
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Silver is 20% denser than copper. It is debatable weather a dime sinks faster than a penny, but I think it does. If you Mid-westerners want a challenge try some clay soil in the Southeast US, next time you drive to the beach. I would suggest here since it was the Iron capitol of the South. Just pick a farm since you do so well back home with that. I am truly impressed by the way. Goes4ever your accomplishments in asking permission at so many farms and getting that much silver is awesome, and I would like to see what you think about our soils, if you ever get the chance.
 
My wheats to silver lately has been about 20/1. I'll do the actual math later but I agree if there are wheats, silver is or at least WAS there too. If you are finding plenty of wheats, it might be a less hunted area... hit it hard before someone else finds your spot! I finally found a hot spot in town but its only a matter of time before someone else figures it out too and gets my loot!
 
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