Got the legend..now some questions

[stan in colo]

Got my new legend.. at first hunt, it seems like it wants to chatter. I mean bad, hard to hunt, but i could find the good stuff thru the noise. Got a 1916 buffalo nickle. And some wheat cents. But the chatter drives me nuts. Talked to Ryan at the repair center, told me to run some discrimination, was running park m1,m2,m3 single freq, nothing seemed to help. Field mode was a tad better but still chattery. So what are you all running for disc,if, stability etc. Makes me wonder if my coil is bad, did the noise cancel and gb, nothing seems to help, dont have a different coil.

 

[JCR TX]

It could be just bad EMI where you were. Try a Factory default setup with Sensitivity at half power or 15. It should be quiet. Increase from there.

 

[woodbutcher]

I never had any problems anywhere with my legend, never had emi

 

[coinspader]

make sure the coil connection is good on the control box, the nokta detectors are a little tricky, you to screw them in so far and then push on the connector and screw it in the rest of the way.

 

[stan in colo]

Ive had it to 3 or 4 places, it acts the same, quiet until i move the coil, then it just beeps, and beeps, i know every body says they are a quiet machine, not mine

 

[JCR TX]

If you have a second coil try it. Something is not right.

 

[sprchng]

For the most part my Legend is a comfortable machine to run with EMI being only a small issue. When it gets really chatty turning the sens. down to the mid 20s usually does the trick. I hunt urban environs in C 3 mostly with bottle cap adjusted to the number of drunks and inconsiderates who frequent those environs. I use the 12x8 primarily but have seen no real issues as far as chattiness with other coils. The cost of the coils is so reasonable , it's hard to see only having one in the stable.

 

[dd214]

How are you running recovery speed? Lowering if running high can calm it some.

 

[stan in colo]

How are you running recovery speed? Lowering if running high can calm it some.

I belive recovery is at 5

 

[D&P-OR]

It may be a bad coil.-----See if you cn get another coil from some where to try on it.

 

[Odanscoils]

Turn the sensitivity to 5.
Still chatting.
May need to go back.
Do CK that coil connection as already mentioned.

 

[stan in colo]

Will definately check all siggestions. Temps are down here in colo, not sure when ill be able to swing a coil again. But can experiment in front yard. Thanks everybody who replied.

 

[dd214]

Absolutely what D&P said..with everything you've tried to troubleshoot...warranty time.

 

[jmaclen]

Got my new legend.. at first hunt, it seems like it wants to chatter. I mean bad, hard to hunt, but i could find the good stuff thru the noise. Got a 1916 buffalo nickle. And some wheat cents. But the chatter drives me nuts. Talked to Ryan at the repair center, told me to run some discrimination, was running park m1,m2,m3 single freq, nothing seemed to help. Field mode was a tad better but still chattery. So what are you all running for disc,if, stability etc. Makes me wonder if my coil is bad, did the noise cancel and gb, nothing seems to help, dont have a different coil.

Hi Stan, I am also in Colorado.
I've been a Legend owner since it was introduced back in 2022. At least here in the Denver area, the Legend and the Equinox models and the Manticore and Deus 2 are all chatty just from EMI. These are very powerful simultaneous multi frequency detectors and they are going to detect EMI. Throw in ground noise from the magnetite here and these detectors can be noisy. Notching out the worst target IDs can help some but that may notch out a good target too. Running a custom coin program with lots of custom discrimination will quiet down the Legend. Make sure that your threshold volume is OFF. It should be OFF for Park and Field modes anyway unless you are using it as a reference threshold with lots of notched out target IDs.

Here, I can run sensitivity at 22 to 24 without being tortured by EMI. Anything higher will drive me nuts. Its the same with those other detectors I mentioned.

I can run the Legend inside my house at about 16 sensitivity in the A discrimination pattern using Park or Field M1, M2 and M3. M2 is the most quiet. 15 kHz or higher single frequency are also the most quiet. You can try using the G or F discrimination pattern like Ryan suggested but there may still be some EMI creeping in above target ID 10. I usually hunt with the least amount of iron filters possible so I keep IF on 1 and IS on 1 to 3. I keep recovery speed between 3 and 5. If EMI is bad, lowering the recovery speed a bit can help.

Legend is transmitting low frequencies around around 3 and 8 kHz in its simultaneous multi frequency mix and those two frequencies will react to EMI. It is also transmitting a frequency around 40 kHz which does not react so much to EMI. M1 and M3 are weighted more towards those lower frequencies and M2 is mostly weighted towards 40 kHz.

If you hold the coil still, well off the ground with sensitivity on 15 to 20 and scroll through the frequency settings using Park or Field in the A discrimination pattern, you should hear a difference between EMI detection levels especially between M1 and M2 and between 4kHz and the higher frequencies. Try it in several locations in your home or yard. If you don't hear a difference in EMI detection noise, there is something wrong with your Legend.

 

[Picketwire]

In what part of Colorado do you live? If you are close enough, I have different coils you can try. If you are running max sensitivity, that is probably the problem. There is no where that I have detected in Colorado that allows that much sensitivity. It appears jmac can run higher sensitivity in Denver than I can on the high plains sand near here.