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[size=large]Really folks, other than having something to direct the MineLab folks to, this thread serves no purpose.[/size]

Your efforts would be far more productive if you e-mail and call MineLab directly expressing your desires. I can assure you that nobody of consequence or authority at MineLab is monitoring us here.
 
Yeah 6 pages of want list was not enough for minelab to even bat a eyebrow at us. I guess with the 3030 and pinpointer released the terra owners take a back seat on the bus. Hopefully the non authorized guys are reading this thread and are in the works.
 
there is speculation coiltek will release this coil for the x-terra
 
BADBAJA said:
Yeah 6 pages of want list was not enough for minelab to even bat a eyebrow at us. I guess with the 3030 and pinpointer released the terra owners take a back seat on the bus. Hopefully the non authorized guys are reading this thread and are in the works.

Unfortunately, those with little or no knowledge of a specific product's development process seem to have all the "answers", while those familar wtih product development recognize that the information is "proprietary" (by NDA's) until the manufacturer makes the announcement.
 
This thread was started last December almost a year now. People with very limited access to materials in a far away country have no problem it seems mass producing a product that is very similar and videos showing they are useful. It seems there's a big following overseas from us here in the USA.

And your right about not having no product development process because I would have left that company and gone solo(like I am now) and give the customer what they are asking for.
 
BADBAJA said:
This thread was started last December almost a year now. People with very limited access to materials in a far away country have no problem it seems mass producing a product that is very similar and videos showing they are useful. It seems there's a big following overseas from us here in the USA.
And your right about not having no product development process because I would have left that company and gone solo(like I am now) and give the customer what they are asking for

For others who may not understand how this whole process rolls out, let me explain how I see it......The technical specifications for a given detector are patented by the OEM. In regard to the X-TERRA, that would be Minelab. An aftermarket manufacturing company (in the example of the All Terrain coil, Coiltek) approaches Minelab and negotiates for the rights to manufacture a product that interfaces with the detector. After all the legal steps are taken, an agreement is drawn up that allows the aftermarket company access to those specifications, in an effort to make their product. When that product is initially developed, it is carefully inspected by the OEM, to insure complete compatibility, that it will not create problems for the detector platform and that it performs up to the high standards established by that OEM. When that product design has been "accepted" by the OEM, the aftermarket company will apply for patent rights, as well as a license to manufacture that specific product. Depending on the accessory, manufacturing can start prior to the patent being accepted (patent pending). But due to legal stipulations, they will not typically begin the manufacturing process until they've been licensed to do so. When the license has been secured, the aftermarket manufacturer is "authorized" to produce and market the product. The first few products are sent to individuals who are very familiar with the product line, for testing. Depending on the particular product, this testing process can take as little as a few weeks, to more than a year. The end result that everyone works to achieve is a product that is a well designed, well built, functions properly and meets the needs of the consumer. I've tested many products that have gone on to become very successful as well as a few that never made it to the market. It takes time to workout the issues that can be resolved, and enough confidence (in your abilities) to inform the manufacturer if it doesn't meet the criteria. Regardless, of those that make it through testing, whether it takes two weeks or two years, the product is not likely to be introduced to the public until all the testing has been completed and the product has been accepted by all parties concerned. With the product having been accepted by the OEM, manufacturing continues. Once a given quantity of the product has been manufactured, it is distributed to the public through a distributor/dealer network.
So from a "time-line" perspective, offering an "authorized" aftermarket coil, properly designed and legally manufactured, is a much more technical and time consuming process than someone backward engineering a pirated product and selling them at an online auction site, with no responsibility to meet any specific technical standards.
 
I would buy one for sure!
 
i would love o have one!!
 
I would prefer it come from coiltek or minelab. Either way I will pick one up authorized or not when they hit the market. Good luck to all.
 
Why on earth, or rather 'in earth, would anyone want a 6"DD in 3khz as opposed to the 6" concentric in 7. Does anyone honestly believe they will hit silver deeper, or in any way work through heavy trash with better separation?
 
Yes
 
argyle said:
Why on earth, or rather 'in earth, would anyone want a 6"DD in 3khz as opposed to the 6" concentric in 7. Does anyone honestly believe they will hit silver deeper, or in any way work through heavy trash with better separation?

Yes.


Digger.

When are you going to ear bash those at Minelab ? --- It's time for them to step up to the plate and support the X-Terra 505 / 705 with some new coils. How can we (us that own one, and those that will in the future) make the most of the great features of this great detector with the limited coil choice. I think that the owners of the 70 / 705 have waited long enough and it's time someone made a stand to get things into motion. It's clear that there is a demand for new coils to make use of the 3 frequencies that these detectors have, but it seems that Minelab is not up to speed on this.

I've yet to see anyone from Minelab step forward with concrete news on how they are going to support and proceed in this matter with the end user of this much under-rated metal detector.

And while I'm in this rant mode, I'll also point out that the E-Trac is also lacking in coil selection, I'd like to see a 5 or 6 inch DD, and a 5x10 DD like the X-Terra has.

I look forward to yours and Minelab's reply in the not so distant future.
 
argyle said:
Why on earth, or rather 'in earth, would anyone want a 6"DD in 3khz as opposed to the 6" concentric in 7. Does anyone honestly believe they will hit silver deeper, or in any way work through heavy trash with better separation?
Yep!
And actually I'd like two 3kHz DD coils, one big and one small.
 
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