Iron Falsing vs Two Targets

[ptdigger]

Is there a definitive way to tell the difference Falsing and Two targets?

 

[Larry (IL)]

Definitive, no, I still get fooled once in a while but cross checking your targets (90 degrees) will eliminate most of them. Also, if the target pinpoints off center from the audio, it is most likely a nail.

 

[Big Boys Hobbies]

Look at your target trace. If it splatters all over likely iron. Do the targets seem to move around and not repeat? Another tale tale sign of iron. 2 targets will usually repeat most every time.

Best thing is to dig them all till you learn what machine is telling you.

 

[squirrel1]

Well pt digger, that's a hard one. I can tell you this. I just got back from a site I've hunted hard with etrac. In combine mode, ferrous coin, fast on, deep off, with the CTX I got a fluctuating high tone with splatter on the screen. I kept a turning and turning and turning watching the screen. From one position I kept getting this somewhat better clarity high tone. It appeared to be coming from the exact same spot. In pinpoint target trace the target looked way too big for a coin. At about 4 inches this nice wheat penny jumps out. I saw this splatter again at this site on 2 more suspicious closely knitted high tones. I just didn't hear enough to make me dig so I didn't. The audio clarrity diffference on the CTX is supreme when in iron for me.

 

[earthmansurfer]

Squirrel1 - Thx for mentioning you got a coin and yet saw splatter. I had been wondering about that.

I will say this, I hunt in 50 CO and almost every false I get, when checked in Combine, gives me an iron reading. But it seems like most are using the CTX in Combine. 50 CO sure falses a lot more than Combine does but it also misses less imo. Pick your poison though. I tend to go along the lines of what Larry said, you can eliminate most falses by checking the target from 4 directions. I do that but pay close attention to how solid that target is hitting if it is only a 2 way hit. My best and deepest silver find, a 9" quarter sized Dmark, was pretty much a two way hit that pinpointed WAY off center. It was extremely clear from the 2 directions (one plane) it hit though. That was the give away, along with the silver VID. Intuition is a big part of it for me. Using a detector for hours brings you closer to the language it speaks and it is difficult to communicate that with words.

I think it is very difficult to describe the difference between a false hit and a good one. And as others have said, no matter what, you will get fooled. I think digging a lot of targets is key, at least initially. Conditions and responses vary, so you can't really go by what works for some of us across the board - this is with most of the settings imo. That said, it sure is a big help to share and such.

Albert

 

[ptdigger]

Thank you for your responses. Tonight I went back to an area that I had gridded and hunted with the CTX. The area was 24 X 60 feet. I dug tones that I had earlier passed over as iron, unless I was sure it was iron. I dug two nails and one very old, badly corroded button. I used an Etrac prior to the CTX I could identify falsing with it. I have been using the same methods with the CTX and was afraid I might have been passing on good targets. I guess the old adage " When in doubt, dig it." comes to play.

 

[sube]

If I get a one way or two way and the target stays put where I sweeped I always dig sometimes junk sometimes a good target key is the target stays where you get a good tone.