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Just a little quote from Charles Up State NY. The site I feel is as close to THE WORD as you can get.

NH Bob

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Let me stress that I'm not looking for a fight with anyone.

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Gain = 7, I have found this to be the best all around setting. Deep targets still sound deep (different) from shallow targets yet they are not so faint that you have to strain to hear them. Be on the lookout for those fainter signals that repeat though, I found many a silver dime on edge with this machine and they don't give the more robust signal you get from a coin lying flat. Some guys hunt with the gain at 10, I get too many false signals that high. One quite successful hunter uses 6 but I nearly missed some on edge coins at 7 so 6 aren
 
hey bob i see you like the last word so I'm gonna give it to ya...and no fight...so this is the last i will say bob so make a reply and have your last word ...I'm OK with how i hunt and what i find by huntin that way....and thats that...now on to better ways to spend our time....like huntin for goodies...I'm sorry for ruffling your feathers man its just my nature at times to do so and so it seems is your nature as well...would really love to hunt with ya tho if for no other reason than to have the friendly competition...and i do mean FRIENDLY...since the written word lacks the demeanor in which it would have been spoken in person trust me when i say it was all in jest my friend:please::surrender: and Charles is indeed a great hunter in his soil but he ain't huntin in my soil or his gain would be lower if for no other reason than to get stability from Sig's that are obviously from the ground mineralization being over amplified by to much GAIN ....holy cow ...we need to hunt together bob so we could speak and save my dang fingers from all this typing hahahah
 
I am as you say. One who takes things a bit too far sometimes. But a lot of it is, I don't think some read everything in the post and have a tendency to jump too quick. If you read my very first reply tonight about lowering the gain too much. You will see that all I was doing was giving my opinion about it. Right or wrong, it should never have reached the point it did. And, Half of that is my fault for, as you say. Wanting the last word. I'm too old to change. That's why I don't get involved too much any more in the posting here. I don't seem to have the same problem at other forums. It's more of a discussion that a fight.
So much for that. I'd love to hunt with you or digitrich or anyone else that wants to try for some good old New England treasures.
The better coppers from a stag stop. 2 Days huning and 57 coppers.
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Some relics and buttons from that same hunt.
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sweet digs bob...and don't change you're attitude one dang bit i like and need that kinda stuff to keep my determination high in the field so i wont start to get lax in my detecting skills man:thumbup:
 
Makes sense to me Bob...

I'm ready to give different settings a go, as they're put forward.

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Some very nice coins Bob..Is that all from a recent hunt?. Or spread out over time?.
 
Really nice old coins you got Bob.

Here's my most used settings on my SE...

Sensitivity Mode Manual
Sensitivity Value 20
Threshold Volume 8
Discrimination Function IM
Iron Mask Value 22
Noise Channel* 11
Display Type Smart
Display Size Full Screen
Contrast 6
Audio Volume Maximum Limit 10
Audio Volume Gain 7
Audio Threshold Tone 3
Audio Tone Variability 10
Audio Tone Limits 10
Audio Sounds Ferr
Audio Response Pitch Hold
Options Recovery Fast Off
Options Recovery Deep On


# Although I've been thinking of trying deep = off.
I've been told that responses "sound better" with deep off.... We'll see.

By the way, keep posting Bob ~ everyone's different...:detecting:
 
Snowy....I know when I was at a school yard with lots of hot rocks and electrical noise near by....my cursor was unstable....and when I turned off deep-on I got a much better cursor...also I noticed when I turned on back light to screen the detector went nuts.....and I thought it was the machine gone bad...I tried back light at beach and it was fine.....so no back light in noisy places.....I was running gain at 7 and was hearing faint sounds of silver dimes at about 6-8"-ish........so I wonder if I turned it down to 6 if I would hear them at all....I never got a chance to experiment there cause I got run off by the law.....There is no such thing as one setting does all places.....I find myself tweeking it a little from place to place....but my settings are about just what Charles runs before I even read his artical....so we both came to the conclusion on our own.....I am still learning as will everyone that is willing to experiment....we are getting a big snow storm today.....I hope it moves some sand off the beaches.....
 
When I was robber thay got my CD-R with all my finds.
This is a pic of what I've found sinse the breakin.
If all you had was a few left over pics of your entire cashe of finds. You might post them a little too much too.
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the 1945 Class ring (10K gold). Waiting for the the good weather to return so I can give those settings an even better chance to show off.
 
Either way..Great finds..I just dream of digging coins like those.... I would appreciate seeing more of your finds old or new.....
 
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Who are you to argue with???? because I don't think anyone on here thinks they are a pro....... but some how..... you do........... argue, I believe you have some deep need to be the "go to guy". As for you posting "your" experiences with the Explorers...you don't post your experience, instead you either repost something some one else has mentioned or you misquote some one else's opinion such as Charles NY, or the manual that came with the machine. That article of Charles' about gain was, I believe, for the EX 2 and published prior to the SE ever coming out, as you know, there are worlds of differences between the machines. And if you are not finding coins at ten inches with your gain at lower than 7 then there is something a miss with your machine because in ten states now, with two different SE's, I have no such problem. Am I just lucky?? Or are you just unlucky? Or is there maybe a setting on your machine that isn't quite correct?? Is your volume limit set to max 10 or maybe is it set to 8 and therefore you are loosing the faint signals at a gain of 5? Are you in auto sens or manual? It makes a difference. "A gain less than 7 will cause you to miss those sweet soft signals" is an ignorant statement sir. I enjoy your posts Bob but it irks me to no end when people post stuff as "their experiences" when they are just copying other posts. When I first got my SE, I thought there was something wrong with it because of Peoples posts about laying coins on the ground, a dime, nickle, quarter, penny; all, six inches apart and in a straight line. They posted that the SE would signal on the first target and not signal on the others as you swept the coil over them, because of this, the posters said they had to send back 2 or 3 machines until they "got one that worked or ML fixed it" Because of those posts, I and many others who tried that experiment found out "hey, mine is broken too"!!!! Well guess what? Every SE, EX1, and EX2 will do the exact same thing...it will fail that test miserably, because that is what is supposed to happen on a air test at that close of a spacing. There is nothing wrong with any of the machines. Those machines will hit on all those targets if they were underground, at the same spacing for any appreciable length of time to achieve a halo effect, because that is what the machine is designed to do, find targets in mineralized soil, not in the air. But because one person said it, five hundred machines were sent in. Like your stock coil horrible story; your quotes and others......"FBS Slimline piece of junk", "throw it in a field like a Frisbee" "get the old 1050" Now, I have two of the FBS Slimline 10's and both work perfectly. I am just bloody surprised Mine Lab or the dealers who get back machines and coils because of certain peoples irresponsible, want to be a know it all, parroting posts, I am surprised that they don't toss these offenders right off their, that they paid for: Find mall and save themselves the hassle. How many coils have you caused ML to take back BOB. How many untold pains in the ass and long pointless telephone conversations with their once happy now upset customers because of this crap. Are you really that sure it was two different coils, both bad, BOB??? Now, I don't doubt that you might have gotten a bad coil, but the concept of all FBS Slimline tens being bad and only the old 1050 works on your machine is just BS. Do you have any idea what cause and effect is? I too, am guilty of this myself, but not because someone else said something that I then decided to repeat like a want to be clapped for parrot, but because it really actually happened to me, PERIOD. I would love to read YOUR posts BOB, not your copied from others posts, they're like rumors and your the fifteenth person telling it. If you have something to add to one of my posts or answers to another post just please make it from YOUR OWN EXPERIENCE, but like you said, and I quote ......"and also use the ML 800. As I don't hunt real trashy areas." You don't hunt really trashy areas, Bob????? So much for that experience thing, huh? See Bob, I am a little sensitive to these "statements" as they are not adding to people's understanding or ability with their machines but subtracting from them, and that is a shame.
 
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