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Kicked out of my favorite park!!!:rant: :hot::rage:

I hate to say this, but, having been into this for 30 yrs, I truly think the beginning of a LOT of bologna starts with well-intentioned persons "asking permission". As if something were inherently evil with their hobby, that they needed to ask, to begin with :confused: Example: in my town, our "central park" had been detected since the dawn of metal detectors, as far back as anyone could remember. No one ever said a thing to us there. In fact, it never even OCCURED to us in the 1970s/80s that you needed to ask permission, or inquire, etc... I mean, it's a PUBLIC park, isn't it?

Then one day in the mid 1980s, a new guy to town visits our detecting club meeting. Various persons, in the find-of-the-month show & tell, would say things like "found this @ Central park", etc... He raises his hand and says "I thought it was illegal to detect there?". We all turn and look at him saying "since when?" "who told you that?" Turns out he'd gone down to city hall and asked! Hmmm, now some of the club members got skittish, as if .... somehow NOW the parks were off-limits? Others shrugged their shoulders and figured it was some deskbound bureaucrat, but was obviously not an issue, so they would ignore this fellow's report.

Point is, guess what that same bureaucrat might do the next time he passes the park(s) and sees an md'r, who he previously would never have probably paid attention to? He'll remember the earlier inquiry and think "there's one of THEM". This is where the FMDAC mailers, with horror stories of isolated incidents here and there, actually cause people to think they need to inquire at each town, park, school, etc... And before you know it, rules get invented "to address these pressing issues". It's a durned if you do, and durned if you don't situation. Because NOW, once there IS rules (no matter how they started), you are, I guess, responsible to know them. Which only snowballs into more people asking, thus more red-flags and images of geeks with shovels coming to people's mind, thus more "no's" and on and on, round and round, it goes :(
 
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Mike, I'm so proud you stood up to all that nonsense! It's about time we detectorists stood up for our rights! After I moved overseas, I asked the personnel in my office about the metal-detecting laws in the country to which I had moved. They knew of none, so I began metal-detecting all of the local parks. Once, I had two curious city policemen ask what I was looking for - bombs? The man next to me explained to them that I was only looking for small change. Then, while they watched, I dug a hole about sixteen inches long, and four inches deep. After I had pulled out a metal rod of some kind, I refilled my hole and replaced the hinged pieces of dirt. They were amazed to see that they could no longer tell where the hole had been. Another time, I had traveled to Venice, Italy and was metal-detecting in a local park, while a soccer game was going on. Well, European soccer games can get pretty violent, and even deadly. Besides, some Italians don't like Americans! Remember, I said SOME! Well, while I was metal-detecting, I noticed several Italian federal policemen walking around the park. A few minutes later, the soccer game was over and the crowd began pouring out of the stadium. Looking up, I noticed that about 30 federal policemen had made a circle around me and were preventing the crowds from even coming close to the spot I was detecting. One of the policemen, a young guy, asked me what I was looking for and I told him small change. I had to ask him to wait just a moment, as I had just gotten a strong signal. Pointing at the meter of my White's 6000 DiPro, I told him I had just found a pull tab. He was confused, until I dug the pull tab out of the ground and showed it to him. Then, he was amazed at how I was able to tell him what I was about to dig up, before I had even made a hole in the ground. He then watched as I carefully covered my hole. That day, I never had a problem with any authority figure harassing me and I'm sorry to hear that there are some idiots in the U.S. who just don't understand that, many times, we are returning pieces of their history to them that never would have seen the light of day, had it not been for our skills and talents. I'm a history nut, myself, and don't know what I would do, if I were prevented from enjoying my hobby, so I could place some of my finds in museums, as I've done in the past. There's only been one time that I ever had a slight problem with an authority figure here in the States. Once, I was searching a park in Washington State and, although the park personnel had seen me, they never told me that they were about to close the park for the night. Needless to say, I got locked in. But, I had the last laugh! There was a section of the park that was blocked by telephone poles stuck into the ground. They were only about four or five feet long and I was able to pull one out of the ground, so I could drive out of the park. Of course, I replaced the pole and guessed that, the next morning, they were probably scratching their heads, trying to figure out how I got out of the locked park. Anyway, it's way past time that we all stood up for our rights! We've sat on our collective butts for far too long and gone along with the flow. And, the powers that be have taken advantage of the situation and blown their so-called powers of authority way out of proportion. I mean, heck, we're all law-abiding tax-payers who have just as many rights to enjoy our local parks as the next fellow. And, as some of the others have stated, we're actually performing a great service, as we eliminate junk items from the parks we love to frequent. Okay, enough of my ranting! Great going, Mike! I'm proud you handled the situation as you did!
 
Dang "Twig Pigs"!!!!
 
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