Sube might be correct for where he detects.
He is definitely not correct where I detect.
Handfuls of silver keep coming out of the ground for me using the Manticore and Deus 2. They make a great combo. Manticore especially with the M15 coil is simply deeper than Deus 2 with any coil here. Deus 2 will sometimes separate better. Both are finding mid depth and 8"+ depth targets that were totally missed by previous hunters including me using some excellent detectors like Etracs, CTX 3030s, V3is, Equinox models and the Legend. That doesn't mean those other detectors are necessarily inferior. Depends on soil conditions, settings, coil choices and overall depth.
So at least for me, Deus 2 with the 11" and 13X11" coils and Manticore with the M11 and M15 coils are clear winners as far as mid depth to deep silver/coin/jewelry detectors where I detect for overall effective depth with good target IDs, target separation and bad ground handling.
Photo is for last year (2024) using mostly the Manticore with M11 and M15 coils in public parks. These are parks that many local club members consider hunted out. If we have an impromptu hunt at some of these parks, many club members hunt for an hour and then go to a different park after not finding anything. I and a few others with Manticores continue to hunt them and get good results. The silver coins, rings and older coins/tokens keep being found. My gold totals have dropped off a bit so far this year compared to 2024 but that is probably not detector related.
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As for the Ops question, some people buy the wrong detector for their skill level, get misled by whatever, don’t hunt enough, lose interest, or need the money. I am not hearing any bad reports from people I know and trust about either the Manticore or Deus 2 using up to v2.00 software for “normal” coin, jewelry, and relic hunting that regularly use them and know them well.
