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New multi frequency machine

The N-M multi frequency machine is already 2 years late. If it comes out in September, it is too late for folks closer to the northern border to use during the fall and winter season. Then again, I don't want it if it isn't 100% ready to use. And I wouldn't want one to take to a Caribbean island and have it break down. If they don't get a move on, a Nox 800 or its next iteration may be on the Christmas list for many people.
 

Treasurechic

Active member
Let's not forget the Nox has a camlock shaft system which is outdated and the coils are notorious for their ears breaking, something you think they would have learned with the Xterra series. Minelab just doesn't listen to their customers like Nokta Makro does. You would think they would upgrade the Nox shaft to a similar system like their Vanquish series but instead they just keep making them with an outdated shaft system so if you want a decent shaft you have to buy an aftermarket one. Nokta Makro listened to their customers even after they had already sold thousands of Simplex's and offered updates to keep customers happy. I can't wait to see this Multi frequency machine, then we will see what Minelab does when they have a serious competitor.
 

relicmeister

Well-known member
I know what Minelab will do- introduce a next gen.upgrade to the Equinox that will be technically superior, with build quality improvements in shaft, coil ears, ergonomics and waterproofing. This won’t happen until N/M sales have a noticeable effect on Equinox sales. Not sure if pricing will be as competitive. I’ll bet it’s well into its design phase now.
 

relicmeister

Well-known member
I’m wondering if the N/M SMF in test stage now is going to have a full TID range (0-100)or compressed TID range (-9-40) like equinox. If it is full range 0-100, and that would be my guess, it will be all the more appealing.
 
I for one have been chomping at the bit for years for someone to make a machine to compete with Minelab, So far nobody has even come close with any type of simultaneous multi-frequency detector. As much as I love the quality of whites, they were not even in the ballpark with the beachunter ID, DFX, or finally the V3i.
I can't wait to see the Nokta Makro SMF machine
 

relicmeister

Well-known member
If there’s no announcement about release very soon, then its stronger chance will be they introduce and take preorders in the fall and first deliveries spring ‘22- but I’m just guessing here.
 

Monte

Well-known member
One would certainly hope there is an announcement soon. Minelab not only had their higher-end Equinox series out for several years now, but also their mid-priced Vanquish series. I got my first Vanquish shortly after their release, and then Garrett brought out their excellent mid-priced Apex that I acquired after its introduction almost a year ago. SMF with selectable Single-Frequencies and more, and affordable. All the while I have been holding out on a top-end SMF from Nokta / Makro but it's been slow.

It took a long time to get accessory coils for the Simplex +, then they only offered two mid-sized coils and announced there would not be a 5" DD or 7" Concentric (two of the better coils they could have offered), or any other coils to come, especially no smaller-size coils. And all the while time has been dragging on to get an SMF in production. I was told I would be sent a prototype / 'test' unit , but that still hasn't happened. And Dilek used to pop on forums more often to keep us up-to-date with any progress or new product thy are working on, but for quite a while now it's been quieter from Nokta / Makro.

I'm sure Minelab as well as Garrett are not sitting still on their product designs, and it has been terribly slow on anything that is new and interesting from FTP, but you would expect something to happen.

Still, the Nokta / Makro build quality and in-the-field performance has been right up there at the top, yet, nothing new from them in a 'Multi' product? There are long-used statements to be aware of, such as: "Time flies by" or "it's too late" or maybe "you are late to the party" or "it's now or never" .... and in this industry, you do not want to fall behind. Just ask the folks who were Tesoro or White's.

I DO want a top-end SFM detector that is solid yet comfortable, and provides decent in-the-field performance. I DO want a 5" coil and hopefully a 7" Concentric coil for it. And importantly, I DO want one SOON! I hope N/M can get a well engineered product out soon, and I am more than eager to valuate a 'test' sample We are already long overdue, nd it is now into the end of May. Time is a wasting.

Monte
 
According to a NJ blog site, Dilek from Nokta Makro is supposed to be on their show in a couple of weeks and should make a more definitive announcement at that time. Hoping it happens.
 

Monte

Well-known member
According to a NJ blog site, Dilek from Nokta Makro is supposed to be on their show in a couple of weeks and should make a more definitive announcement at that time. Hoping it happens.
Nice, but a "couple of weeks" puts us into mid-June and time is flying by. Most folks have shopped or are shopping now for something new and trying to get the best use during the heights of a typical detecting season.

Monte
 
Nice, but a "couple of weeks" puts us into mid-June and time is flying by. Most folks have shopped or are shopping now for something new and trying to get the best use during the heights of a typical detecting season.

Monte
Monte, I don't disagree with what you are saying. All I was trying to do was provide information which may "or may not" answer some of the questions about intro of the new machine for those that asked and are interested. I am not affiliated with N-M nor do I have one of their machines. Like others I am waiting impatiently for any positive news when it comes to introduction of a Nox competitor or any info about its abilities. I posted about my dismay with N-M's year+ delay in introducing the SMF machine and the affect it may ultimately have on consumer sales a month or two ago.
 

relicmeister

Well-known member
Hope someone posts a link to that here. Love to hear more specific info on the new machine as well as a better idea of when it will come out. I hate the idea of preordering but if one isn’t very early in doing so the wait will be even longer.
 

Just coils

Active member
Please consider a 8 “or 9”coil for us serious coin hunters !!!! 6” is too small , 11” is too big !!!! This is the very reason I don’t have a Nox is coil limitations !!
Have a feeling you may get your wish. Makro may use a 8 or 9" as the basic coil for the SMF. I would like a 6' optional coil also available from the get go. They have been working on this machine for a long while so the 6" could be a done deal also. Just my 2 cents. Hopefully we will know all the answers in a few weeks.
 

kajunman

Active member
Ya, I hope the standard coil is NOT an 8 or 9 inch coil. Beach hunting is not conducive to small coils. SMF shines on beaches and hunting with that small of a coil would be frustrating.
 

Just coils

Active member
As you get older, 8 and 9" coils are larger coils. I use my 6" equinox coil almost exclusively. Works for me, but we all have different preferences.
 

tvr

Well-known member
Ya, I hope the standard coil is NOT an 8 or 9 inch coil. Beach hunting is not conducive to small coils. SMF shines on beaches and hunting with that small of a coil would be frustrating.
In the water hunting is conducive to smaller coils more so than wide open beach areas are. For a while now I've felt a 9 inch coil with a fairly thin side profile was a good compromise at the beach to do both in the water and sand sweeping.
 
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