BuckeyeBrad
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Remember, there are and will always be a finite amount of engineering resources available and personally, I'd prefer as much of those resources as possible go toward new technology/detectors.
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New Teknetics 10" DD Coil Available Soon!
- Thread starter CarolinaClyde
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And nothing for the customers who already have purchased their detectors? Yes better machines and improvements are on the drawing board already I'm sure and technically First Texas has made benchmarks other manufactures have yet to reach. Like still being top of the line detectors that are still affordable. I agree that they all need to keep improving technology to it's limits. Staying stuck with old tech can keep you behind...who do you think needs needs to improve their product line up the most? HH, Woodstock
Mike Hillis
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I'm going to order a F5 decal for it so it will match it's kin :clsoedeyes:
I like the long cord. Lot more options available with the long cord.
Bought it from Clyde. Great guy to do business with.
HH
Mike
I'm going to order a F5 decal for it so it will match it's kin :clsoedeyes:
I like the long cord. Lot more options available with the long cord.
Bought it from Clyde. Great guy to do business with.
HH
Mike
TerraDigger
New member
You do know, that you are obligated to give us a in-depth field test on that puppy
And do include your settings......for those of us high mineralization users.
And do include your settings......for those of us high mineralization users.
Mike Hillis
Well-known member
Spent a little time with the new 10" elliptical DD coil mounted on my F5 yesterday morning.
The new 10" elliptical DD is, in a nutshell, the 5" coil wearing a 10" shoe that is designed primarily for prospecting. It is less affected by ground minerals than the 11" DD and It is less affected by EMI than the 11" DD, but retains the sensitivity and separation of the 5" coil.
It has a huge outward or side foot print that triples the size of the coil around surface iron like poles and such which makes it impractical for use around large iron that protrudes out of the ground or tot lots, etc, but the downward foot print is nice and tight, just like the 5" coil. Surprisingly that large outsized footprint is not affected by ground level surface trash.
In the ground the target id stayed real close to the stock coil, with only occasional differences, mostly due to target centering under the coil. Nickels still read 30 with an occasional bounce to 31 or 29, Dimes still read as 74 and copper pennies still read 72, quarters still read 84/85.
EMI comparison:
Stock coil - stable with gain at 55, threshold +5
11" DD coil - stable with gain at 60, threshold at -3
new 10"DD coil - stable with gain at 80, threshold at +5, which is quite similar to the 5 incher.
I'll do more coil comparisons later as I have time (time has really been limited this summer).
If you prospect you will need this coil.
If you like to hunt in heavy trash with the 5"incher, you would like this coil.
If you like to hunt small low conductors in open area's in hot ground, you will like this coil.
If you hunt around a lot of protruding, above surface iron you will not like, as in hate this coil. In the ground, ok, above the ground, no - not ok.
The long cord is a topic of conversation and I know it is a personal preference thing, but I like it (been wanting an extension cable for a long time) If you prospect, you like to keep a finger or thumb on the ground balance cause you always like to keep it spot on. It can be tough to do it with the same hand while sweeping but its not so tough if you hip mount and drive the gb with your free hand while sweeping with the other. (If you haven't done it you won't understand). The longer cord gives you that ability.
Also, water hunters have been limited to rod mounting depth. Now you can take the box off and wear it around your neck and get out to at least waist deep water without fear of drowning your box. My take on it anyway.
All in all a good coil for certain applications. I don't see it replacing the 11" DD for coin and relic hunters where depth can be the main objective, nor do I see it replacing the stock coil for tot lotting or homesteads where you are hunting around a lot of iron sticking out of the ground or sitting around, but for prospecting or hunting in high trash where you would normally use the 5" or jewelry hunting sports fields, or shallow water wading where you can now move the control box off the rod, it will make a useful accessory coil.
HH
Mike
The new 10" elliptical DD is, in a nutshell, the 5" coil wearing a 10" shoe that is designed primarily for prospecting. It is less affected by ground minerals than the 11" DD and It is less affected by EMI than the 11" DD, but retains the sensitivity and separation of the 5" coil.
It has a huge outward or side foot print that triples the size of the coil around surface iron like poles and such which makes it impractical for use around large iron that protrudes out of the ground or tot lots, etc, but the downward foot print is nice and tight, just like the 5" coil. Surprisingly that large outsized footprint is not affected by ground level surface trash.
In the ground the target id stayed real close to the stock coil, with only occasional differences, mostly due to target centering under the coil. Nickels still read 30 with an occasional bounce to 31 or 29, Dimes still read as 74 and copper pennies still read 72, quarters still read 84/85.
EMI comparison:
Stock coil - stable with gain at 55, threshold +5
11" DD coil - stable with gain at 60, threshold at -3
new 10"DD coil - stable with gain at 80, threshold at +5, which is quite similar to the 5 incher.
I'll do more coil comparisons later as I have time (time has really been limited this summer).
If you prospect you will need this coil.
If you like to hunt in heavy trash with the 5"incher, you would like this coil.
If you like to hunt small low conductors in open area's in hot ground, you will like this coil.
If you hunt around a lot of protruding, above surface iron you will not like, as in hate this coil. In the ground, ok, above the ground, no - not ok.
The long cord is a topic of conversation and I know it is a personal preference thing, but I like it (been wanting an extension cable for a long time) If you prospect, you like to keep a finger or thumb on the ground balance cause you always like to keep it spot on. It can be tough to do it with the same hand while sweeping but its not so tough if you hip mount and drive the gb with your free hand while sweeping with the other. (If you haven't done it you won't understand). The longer cord gives you that ability.
Also, water hunters have been limited to rod mounting depth. Now you can take the box off and wear it around your neck and get out to at least waist deep water without fear of drowning your box. My take on it anyway.
All in all a good coil for certain applications. I don't see it replacing the 11" DD for coin and relic hunters where depth can be the main objective, nor do I see it replacing the stock coil for tot lotting or homesteads where you are hunting around a lot of iron sticking out of the ground or sitting around, but for prospecting or hunting in high trash where you would normally use the 5" or jewelry hunting sports fields, or shallow water wading where you can now move the control box off the rod, it will make a useful accessory coil.
HH
Mike
BuckeyeBrad
New member
Pretty thorough first impression as usual, Mike. 
I'll only add to something you alluded to when you said, "If you like to hunt small low conductors in open area's in hot ground, you will like this coil." The new coil (at least the one I had) actually starts to meet and then even exceed the response (depth) on very small targets compared to the 11". Definitely an advantageous new tool for certain situations.
I'll only add to something you alluded to when you said, "If you like to hunt small low conductors in open area's in hot ground, you will like this coil." The new coil (at least the one I had) actually starts to meet and then even exceed the response (depth) on very small targets compared to the 11". Definitely an advantageous new tool for certain situations.TerraDigger
New member
Like I asked over in Fisher F Series forum, can either of you guys test some nugget/flake gold specimens on this bad boy. Being in Idaho, my interest is certainly up on this coil.
Mike Hillis
Well-known member
Yep, it is much better than the 11" DD for small low conducters. I prefer the stock coil over the 11"DD any day of the week for that type of stuff. This one is much better. Like I said, 5" sensitivity and separation in a 10" shoe.
I'll have to follow up with a nugget test for Terradigger.
HH
Mike
I'll have to follow up with a nugget test for Terradigger.
HH
Mike
I do like being validated as a prophet and sage guru of evolving MD technology. At least I think that is what your evaluation affirms.
Tom the ever humble
Re: New Coil For The Gold Bug Pro, F5, Teknetics G2 And Greek Series Available Soon! - 18 days ago
My guess and hope is it will hunt like the 5 with a bit more depth. This being the case, Bart, sign me up! Tom
by pasttom - Fisher Gold Bug/Teknetics G2 Forum
Tom the ever humble
Re: New Coil For The Gold Bug Pro, F5, Teknetics G2 And Greek Series Available Soon! - 18 days ago
My guess and hope is it will hunt like the 5 with a bit more depth. This being the case, Bart, sign me up! Tom
by pasttom - Fisher Gold Bug/Teknetics G2 Forum
Thanks for asking! My gut says no. I think I saw that mentioned somewhere there was a call to the home office and they said not in the near future. Companies are loath the telegraph such info and so who knows really. I don't for sure.
Bart and Clyde are our resident dealer/sponsors. I would think they would be the best source of better info. I can often tell up wind from down wind, but my magic 8 ball died years ago.
What's the difference? You will hear about it well before you can get one and what would you not get waiting for them to come out? I love the 5DD best and use the 11DD for extra depth or coverage hunts. The 10DD looks like it would fill a niche for me with the Greek/GB machines. For a T2/F75 user (which I am not...yet) I just don't know if you have an 11 & 5 would you really 'NEED' the 10? I just can't say. Here again there are a lot of better people on this forum to answer you.
Tom the humble (for good reason)
Bart and Clyde are our resident dealer/sponsors. I would think they would be the best source of better info. I can often tell up wind from down wind, but my magic 8 ball died years ago.
What's the difference? You will hear about it well before you can get one and what would you not get waiting for them to come out? I love the 5DD best and use the 11DD for extra depth or coverage hunts. The 10DD looks like it would fill a niche for me with the Greek/GB machines. For a T2/F75 user (which I am not...yet) I just don't know if you have an 11 & 5 would you really 'NEED' the 10? I just can't say. Here again there are a lot of better people on this forum to answer you.
Tom the humble (for good reason)