I looked at my coin book and have been googling with no luck, Been googling hours. The octagon coin has no hole and looks like a flower/palm/cannon on the photo....the back has nothing identifiable.. The small coin is slightly bigger than a dime and fraction smaller than a penny...almost 1/2 as thin a a penny...nothing identifiable. guesses will be helpful for the 2nd small coin. Planning on ultrasound cleaning if coin shop has no leads tomorrow. link to original photo,,,enhanced photo shown. Thanks!
http://awesomescreenshot.com/093epeo24
http://awesomescreenshot.com/093epeo24