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Omega vs G2 EMI

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morelic55

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Wow!! I was out yesterday to a yard in town, powerlines overhead, wires everywhere. The Omega is right up there with it's brothers the T-2 and the F-Series Fishers as far as BAD EMI problems!!! I had to run the sens at 30 just to hunt the yard I was in. I put up with it for about an hour, then I switched over to the G2......At FULL gain, quiet as a mouse!!! Last week when I was huntingin a field in the country, the Omega was quiet as a mouse in the relic fields. Just goes to show that you really do need two machines to "Multi Hunt" That is why I really don't like to hunt yards and parks in town!!!! We have a big snow storm coming thru tomorrow, so it will be awhile until I get out to the field again with the Omega, but, I gotta tell ya, I really don't think the Omega will EVER measure up to the G-2 or GBSE as far as performance goes. I mean, why spend over $800 for a machine that you have to hunt with lowered sens? Example, the T-2 LTD or F-75 LTD. I've hunted with both and it is just stupid to have to run 40 on sens in the "Boost" process mode just to get the depth of a "Regular" T-2 or F-75....:rant:
 
Whenever I have bad EMI problems my first step is to find the best freq and then adjust the sens from there. I can almost always run at least in the 80's of sens after I find the correct freq and get a good GB.
 
Hey morelic I had the same problems today exactly I made a post to I was starting to think something might be wrong with my detector even though it's new I know sometimes even something new can have a problem.
After reading you post I'm now thinking maybe it's just not gonna be so good in areas with a lot of power lines except for the GB it did real good at the park Sat but I was like way out in the park and no power lines very close to me.
 
It did'nt matter which freq I switched it to, a real chatter box, it would help a little when I moved the coil, not much, some thou...........
 
This is what I have been saying for a year now...half the places I go to I have to set my sens WAAAAY down to hunt (usually 40-50), then I have no depth. A major reason why the Omega will go bye bye and the G2 is taking it's place. Oh, and changing the frequency does NOTHING to help.
 
sekypaleo said:
This is what I have been saying for a year now...half the places I go to I have to set my sens WAAAAY down to hunt (usually 40-50), then I have no depth. A major reason why the Omega will go bye bye and the G2 is taking it's place. Oh, and changing the frequency does NOTHING to help.
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How much do you want for that sorry piece of worthless crap?:)
 
Make me an offer.:) Don't take me wrong...it is a great machine if:
-you are basically just after coins
-EMI is not an issue

but for me, I rarely hunt coins, mostly just CW relics and it does not hit hard on lower conductors but nails silver, and many of the areas I experience such high EMI issues the machine becomes almost useless.

The Omega produced some really good finds for me last year (most notably an 1835 capped bust half dime and an excellent Rifleman cuff button) but I think the G2 will be a good improvement for ME and my hunting applications.
 
I agree with you on the G2. I'm afraid thou you might have to buck up and buy a new one, as there have been few used ones for sale out there, same goes for the new Gold Bugs, which would be another option for you. I don't know if I can keep a machine for just coinshooting as like you, I hunt the hay fields and woods 99% of the time.
 
Buying new is not a problem...I have got some really good prices from a couple of dealers. I doubt we will see many G2's sold used for awhile...everything I read says people really like the machine.
 
Are all manufacturers sensitivity controls calibrated the same? A setting of 40 on one detector could be the same as 60 on another.
 
Keep in mind that just because you don't hear it, doesn't mean it's not there (and affecting your detectors capabilities) :detecting:
 
Cal Cobra brings up a good point. All detectors suffer from EMI influences whether you hear the interference or not. Most F-Series/Teknetics detectors are built to run 'hot' on sensitivity. As an example, and I mean not hard numbers, a Teknetics Omega and a White's MXT are both set to a sensitivity setting of 50. Yet in reality, the Omega sensitivity is actually equal to a MXT setting of 70. See??? Because it's built 'hot'.
Also keep in mind each model of detector is tuned/programmed to provide a different performance level under a same circumstance from a different model detector........eg...a Teknetics T2 excels on relics due to a expanded iron range that other First Texas detectors don't have. See???

Try this next time you get into a EMI issue as you described in the original post, where you had to really turn down the sensitivity on the Omega.
Keep settings on both machines as similar as possible. Except for the sensitivity, of course.

1. bury a dime, to where the G2 can barely pick it up.
2. set the Omega sensitivity to where you find it is functional & comfortable in regards to the EMI.
3. if the Omega, at reduced sensitivity, hits better than the G2, then the answer is not to pay too much attention to the sensitivity 'numbers' on the Omega. If it doesn't hit better than the G2, then you have your answer. The Omega is a fail for where/how you hunt.
 
i know air tests dont say a lot but i did air tests on all of my machines...g2 at full sensativity dont hit as deep as omega 8000 set at 55.i set both machines as high as i could for testing inside and still be stable. actually the omega with sens set at 55 was hitting coins as deep as my mxt pro (set to +2 almost max sens) was in air tests indoors. i was very happy with those results. ive never had a machine that would go nuts at high sens settings like the omega does and was worried i wouldnt get the depth due to using a much lower setting...however i was very wrong.
 
Well, I'll just have to tone it down if I want to hunt around powerlines and in town!! I do know on the G2 & Omega I can run them wide open out in the country in the fields where I do 95% of my hunting. I don't want to give up on the Omega just yet, as I do think it has potential.....MO
 
unfortunately,as you stated in your post,and i agree!..air tests are more an "event physcological",
and are "inconclusive".the "only" true measure of a detector's depth capabilities is in a ground balanced
"old dirt" scenario!..this can be time consuming,however,well worth the effort!..good luck with that!

(h.h.!)
j.t.
 
My hunting bud marked a target at 9 inches in mild soil
My GB 29er hit with a soft but very digable tone.
It was a clad dime , now the GB was made for low conductors
and the O8 for high either could have a edge at depth.
 
A great difference in the specs is the operating Frequency:

The Omega on Transmit Frequency: 7.8 kHz
The G2 on Operating Frequency: 19kHz

How does this difference has influence on the above statements?
 
The whole freq thing is bull anyways. Examples: Tejon and Troy X-5 , people have found just as much silver with those as any 3-7 kHz machine made. Just my opinion. I think Fisher and Teknetics have taken the T... design and built the Gold Bug and G2 platforms on then, at least they both have the same freq and performance as the X-5:poke:
 
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