mrwilburino said:
If I could use 50 conductive but still have the ferrous bin and be able to adjust the fe line, I might just give up combined for that.
There are other ways to skin a cat .
Set your first pattern ferrous coin 4 tone fe this will take the most accurate fe # of the target (it is reading the fe # ) pattern 2
Pattern 1 is the same except 32 to 35 is disc out .
So pattern 2 is wide open.
Pattern 1 has the disc from 32 to 35 so you can use the disc to be your fe line by adding more disc or less it won't let you hear the sound in the disc out area . But if you want to hear the sound just go to pattern 2 which will be or search pattern it will let you hear it all .
Since we are going by the fe # in this mode it will place the trace on the 12 line and the iron bin because we have a nail with it stacked target .Whereas high trash ground coin and low trash will put this in the iron bin because they are not separating the nail from the coin ferrous from non ferrous .Now on a blended target such as nail and coin if the coin is separate from the nail not touching or covered high trash ground coin and low trash will give a trace anywhere from 12.45 to 31.45 or 12.40 to 31.40 depending on the size of ferrous item that's with it . You can see by the #s that it's seeing the targets as one not separating them like ferrous coin by putting one target on the 12 line and one in the iron bin . Bin line is set 32 to 35 75hz everything else is set at 1000 hz
Now the reason I use ferrous coin is because it will separate a stacked target ( ferrous from coin) such as coin covering nail where you get no audio but ferrous coin will separate them and leave a trace in the iron bin and one on the 12 line if the iron dose not kill the coin signal .
You will not get this type of separation with any other mode (separates ferrous from non ferrous).
So my first patterns are to get rid of iron masking
Now my go to key will be 4 tone conductive high trash pattern 1 can stay as it is stock don't use .Pattern 2 is set with disc from 32 to 35 to get rid of nails and 12.47 to 12.50 on the right side .
The reason I use high trash is if there is a larger nail with the good target high trash will( sometimes ) ignore it and give me the reading from the coin target. You can still set your conduct bins where you like them tone wise . The reason I said sometime is if the signal from the rejected target is larger than the signal from the accepted target it will be blind to the accepted target even if they are within a inch or farther apart go's against what it says in the manual but I have proved this from my testing
So now I have a pattern to get rid of nails and have a pattern to get rid of a larger rejected item as long as it's disc out . So I get my fe #s from the first patterns the best the machine can do on fe #s
because it's reading fe #s and the second pattern is giving me my co#s blended or not but since it's set to read co#s I will get the best co#s.
As to 50 conduct you could use this as your second pattern but what I have found being in high density trash that 50 co tends to leave a longer signal not like the other profiles where it's just a beep going from one target to the next is harder to hear in 50 co because of the tail on the signal. It's easier to hear one beep to the next without the tail .But would work better where there is less trash density .
If you read what the separation modes do you can see my patterns works for me in iron now non-ferrous items don't bother me there going to show on the 12 line anyway .But it's the iron that messes everything up . Ground coin is a very good mode to use when your trying to separate the ground from the coin signal where the ground signal mineralization is stronger than the coin signal. One thing about low trash it has the best id of them all as long as you can get a signal separated from the other signal so don't be afraid to use it if you can't make heads or tails out of a target . sube
