Thanks everyone, this has been a really helpful thread, for me at least. I still don't know if I will go out and get an X1 tomorrow, or not, as the preferences seem split pretty much in half. I do love the propointer, and I do think it is the best handheld PP on the market currently. The thing that really bugs me about them, however, is all the noise they make. Every time I am using one, all eyes are on me every time I turn that thing on. In some cases, being discreet would be in my bet interest. I also like the idea of target separation very much, as many of you mentioned, a lot of the time there is junk mixed with a keeper, and the propointer doesn't sniff out the keeper in a whole with junk. I think I might open one of my propointers tonight and cut the wire to the speaker. Vibration alone would be perfect for me. If someone from Garret happens to read this thread, please include the option to turn of the speaker on a future model!!!!!! Something as simple as holding down the power button for 10 seconds to turn sound on, or off, would be awesome. I will replace both of my propointers, with two new ones, if you do. I mean it! Build it, and I will buy the first two. Thanks for your help guys. I will go to the local MD shop tomorrow to check out the X1, but I am not completely sold as of yet. HH -Marc