herbajones
Member
I have heard several times while watching e trac detecting videos guys saying they got a good silver signal. How do you know when it is a good silver signal compared to a clad signal?? Please tell me so I can look forward to it.
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Silver signal???
- Thread starter herbajones
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Sorry, I could not resist. 
I think they may be talking about high tone signals with numbers in the upper right hand quadrant. Or perhaps just signals with a high tone CO numbers like 40 plus range.
I would be interested too in the various descriptions of what is a good solid silver signal.
I think they may be talking about high tone signals with numbers in the upper right hand quadrant. Or perhaps just signals with a high tone CO numbers like 40 plus range.I would be interested too in the various descriptions of what is a good solid silver signal.
ha, that was funny. I know you are just joking, but there is a point to be had in this:
Too often, these type questions come up on forums. Ie.: "what does such & such sound like?" And I have to chuckle, because ...... in a printed text forum, there is simply no way to convey a "sound", is there? It would be like me asking fellow forumites: "Please describe the note of C-minor, in printed text here". It can't be done. It can only be "heard".
Silver dimes do seem to ping a hair higher and tinklier, than clad dimes or copper pennies. But because they are so close in the TID cross-hairs, it's hard to put a finger on. It's one of those audio things where, you just have to dig hundreds of signals, over time, through hard-knocks, and pretty soon, you think you're starting to be able to "call" them. It also depends on soil type, coin depth, and even wear on the coin. Because obviously, a thinner more circulated silver dime, will give a slightly lower TID than a full wheatie. It's endless in contingencies.
Also, I have a feeling that some of us are subject to selective memory too, if we were forced to be honest. It works like this: a lot of us turf hunters, will often get a signal, think to ourselves "hmm, sounds kinda high, like this one might be silver, it has the right depth, it has the right *ping*, etc...". But when we dig a wheatie, our subconcious takes over, and we revise ourselves saying "yeah, y'know, it did seem kind of waffling, now that I think of it", and we forget our wrong premonitions.
But when that 5th or 7th deepie turns out to be silver, only THEN do we remember our premonitions, and think "aha! I knew it!". Just like how we sometimes think our dreams at night come true the next day (because you hear that certain song on the radio, or whatever). It's simply selective memory: you dreams hundreds of dreams per night, none of which come true, and we promptly forget them all 1 minute after waking up. But if, occasionally, one DOES come true, THEN you remember the dream and think "gee, I'm psychic"
But with that said, I'll deny selective thinking, and let you all know, that I'm advanced enough to leave wheaties behind all day long, and *only* go for the silver. Yeah, that's the ticket
Too often, these type questions come up on forums. Ie.: "what does such & such sound like?" And I have to chuckle, because ...... in a printed text forum, there is simply no way to convey a "sound", is there? It would be like me asking fellow forumites: "Please describe the note of C-minor, in printed text here". It can't be done. It can only be "heard".
Silver dimes do seem to ping a hair higher and tinklier, than clad dimes or copper pennies. But because they are so close in the TID cross-hairs, it's hard to put a finger on. It's one of those audio things where, you just have to dig hundreds of signals, over time, through hard-knocks, and pretty soon, you think you're starting to be able to "call" them. It also depends on soil type, coin depth, and even wear on the coin. Because obviously, a thinner more circulated silver dime, will give a slightly lower TID than a full wheatie. It's endless in contingencies.
Also, I have a feeling that some of us are subject to selective memory too, if we were forced to be honest. It works like this: a lot of us turf hunters, will often get a signal, think to ourselves "hmm, sounds kinda high, like this one might be silver, it has the right depth, it has the right *ping*, etc...". But when we dig a wheatie, our subconcious takes over, and we revise ourselves saying "yeah, y'know, it did seem kind of waffling, now that I think of it", and we forget our wrong premonitions.
But when that 5th or 7th deepie turns out to be silver, only THEN do we remember our premonitions, and think "aha! I knew it!". Just like how we sometimes think our dreams at night come true the next day (because you hear that certain song on the radio, or whatever). It's simply selective memory: you dreams hundreds of dreams per night, none of which come true, and we promptly forget them all 1 minute after waking up. But if, occasionally, one DOES come true, THEN you remember the dream and think "gee, I'm psychic"
But with that said, I'll deny selective thinking, and let you all know, that I'm advanced enough to leave wheaties behind all day long, and *only* go for the silver. Yeah, that's the ticket
Go to audio and scroll down to threshold variability it will be factory set at 15. Get a silver coin and run it over your coil and if you are satisfied with the tone fine if not run it up to 18 and you will notice a sharper tone. Adjust to your liking. Some have theirs at 30 which is max. I like 18. Then when your coil goes over silver you will know excatly what is under the coil. HH 
I have mine set at 29, and it makes silver just scream!hershey1 said:Go to audio and scroll down to threshold variability it will be factory set at 15. Get a silver coin and run it over your coil and if you are satisfied with the tone fine if not run it up to 18 and you will notice a sharper tone. Adjust to your liking. Some have theirs at 30 which is max. I like 18. Then when your coil goes over silver you will know excatly what is under the coil. HH
The way I normally tell clad from silver dimes is two ways, but doesn't always apply
clad dimes are NORMALLY 12-44, silver dimes are NORMALLY 12-45
also silver is NORMALLY 5-6 inches in my area, clad is shallower obviously
now I say NOMALLY because EVERY barber dime I have dug this year has been in the 12-41 range, mercs and rosies have been 12-45
about 10% of clad dimes will read 12-45 for me, but MOST will give me a solid 12-44, and depth is not always a garantee either because I have dug clad dimes at 7 inches deep and I have also dug silver dimes at 2" deep this year as well. but NORMALLY silver is 5 or more inches deep IN MY AREA
I dig ALL dime signals regardless of depth because not only could it be a shallow silver dime, but it could be a silver ring, silver charm, pendant etc.....and they could be newer and shallower
HaroldILL.
Active member
It's funny though because guy's with explorer's can swear they can tell silver from clad by tone only. They call it the silver warble. I have often wondered about this. I had an xs ,But only for a short time so I did not know it well enough to tell the difference.
utahshovelhead
Active member
The "silver Warblel" I would describe like this; the high tone you get with a regular dime then add to it the warble which is just how the word would be described its not a shaky sound its just a movement in the sound up and down slightly like the tone is excited. A better way to say it may be that yoiu can hear the electrical current in the tone...the wave of it. It is pronounced enough that you can distinguish it easily after the first couple of times and it is a more solid tone with a regular dime so you can tell the difference. Also the numbers on the explorer for a dime and a silver dime were seperated more.
Hope that helps. I do miss the distingiushing sound on the older explorers but ... NO WAY would I ever give up my E trac and go back as it has lots of great skills that work like magic. I have been using the threshold variablity set at 18 (i lowered it) and it is actually working better for me now in that I have predicted the silver coins on the last 4 hunts ive been on with some accuracy.
Good luck
Hope that helps. I do miss the distingiushing sound on the older explorers but ... NO WAY would I ever give up my E trac and go back as it has lots of great skills that work like magic. I have been using the threshold variablity set at 18 (i lowered it) and it is actually working better for me now in that I have predicted the silver coins on the last 4 hunts ive been on with some accuracy.
Good luck
banditicey
New member
When i had the DFX it would scream SILVEEEEER
I miss that
But since I will NEVER give up my E Trac so I'll surely try the Threshold Variability suggestion
HH
I miss that
But since I will NEVER give up my E Trac so I'll surely try the Threshold Variability suggestion
HH
silvereagle
Member
just like ultrashovelhead said,you will hear a distinct flutie sound,I can 99% tell silver or not without looking at the screen,threshold tone is set around 3-4 always,it will still screem but when you here that worrible or FLUTTIE sound you wont ever forget it,IMO good luck