Tejon vs Fisher F75 & You Tube Video - Tejon is Destroyed :detecting:

[Jay Evans]

with the Tejon in high mineralized ground, you can switch from the concentric to the widescan coils and they'll handle the ground minerals better... The Tejon rocks all over the country. The unit was tested in both low mineralized and highly mineralized soils, by two different detectorist. It was designed to handle both soil conditions by changing the coils you use. Read the Manual and the Test reports on the Tesoro website.

 

[NVmar]

with the Tejon in high mineralized ground, you can switch from the concentric to the widescan coils and they'll handle the ground minerals better... The Tejon rocks all over the country. The unit was tested in both low mineralized and highly mineralized soils, by two different detectorist. It was designed to handle both soil conditions by changing the coils you use. Read the Manual and the Test reports on the Tesoro website.

I will have to agree strongly with this comment. The problem with most users seeing these videos includes the assumption that performance is set in stone, so to speak.

People need to realize that Tesoro ships the Tejon with a concentric coil engineered to provide the user with exceptional depth in low mineralized soil. I'm not a fan of their HOT coils, since I do believe they're not adequate enough to pierce through the hunting conditions found on my grounds, but can attest to the HOT's impressive performance where mineralization is not an issue.

I have always thought Tesoro would better serve their customers by including a 10" DD. The depth of their widescan coils is very competitive compared to their HOT series. However, most users want depth, and as such, Tesoro is shipping with the current coil.

I can assure you, the DD coils will provide very good depth and pierce through the mineralized ground. Unfortunately, my guess is that you are losing probably 10-17% in depth.

Also, Bryannagirl, the reason the Lobo does well in Alaska is because it ships with a 8" widescan.

 

[Sven]

]I have noticed with the newer, hyped up detectors made, performance is really there--Beating out the Tesoros.
There are 3 main drawbacks comparing them to the Tejon.
1) Higher Price, Tejon is much cheaper
2) They suffer from EMI, making them useless in many hunting situations)

Ok those are some interesting points. So if I understand you correctly the Tesoro are not good in highly mineralized soil but the F75 is good. Do you think it has to do with the ability to track vs manual adjustment or isn't something else about the F75 that makes it better. Tesoro makes the Lobo that does have tracking I have read it is very popular in Alaska along with the Whites GMT. They both are supposed to have very good ground tracking.

Intersting your comment about the Garretts. I have heard the same thing here in Colorado that there GB system does not handle Colorado soil that well.

Tesoro is behind the eight ball in technology, nothing new, same old stuff. Tesoros work great in most ground conditions but, in certain areas of the country they just
can't handle the ground conditions and suffer with depth loss. Now if Tesoro would get going in producing a very modern detector, they may have a winner. But
First Texas has tons more money to put into research and development, so they developed superior machines to handle the most difficult ground conditions. I'm sure
if you put the Fisher and Tejon in non-mineralized ground performance maybe similar but, the Fisher has visual ID. Most of the guys who have hunted will have at
least three machines to cover most ground conditions and particular type of hunting. One machine will not do it all in all places. The Lobo and GMT are basically made for gold prospecting in mineralized (black sand) soils. They were not made to be depth demons but to find those small pcs. of gold. I also had a Lobo in Georgia, I hunted side by side with
another using a Silver Umax. The Silver kicked my butt using the Lobo in finds. I was not impressed with the lack of depth of the Lobo in the Atlanta area.

I always suggest if your looking for a detector(s), find out what others are using where you live. Check out the local club. I'm sure they already went through countless machines finding what works in your soil conditions. For the most part, you can't go wrong buying a Tesoro, they find some incredibly small gold and silver jewelry that other detectors will miss. Tesoro makes many models of high quality machines with different features that cover a wide range of detecting styles and uses. They are fun to use and easily resold if they don't meet your requirements.


PS: In certain areas of the country, they maybe brand loyal. If no one has ever used a Tesoro there, it maybe worth purchasing one and pitting it against those others. Those
brand loyal folks may get their butts kicked by you and the Tesoro providing you learned how to use it.

 

[Jay Evans]

Great advice Sven I agree 100%

 

[Scully]

The Tejon has a concentric coil, 9 x 8 inches, whereas the F75 has an 11" double D coil. Double D coils "see through" mineralization much better than concentric coils. If that was bad soil, the Tejon would be at disadvanage with the concentric coil. I wonder if it would have done any better with the 12 x 10 DD coil.

 

[Sven]

The Tejon has a concentric coil, 9 x 8 inches, whereas the F75 has an 11" double D coil. Double D coils "see through" mineralization much better than concentric coils. If that was bad soil, the Tejon would be at disadvanage with the concentric coil. I wonder if it would have done any better with the 12 x 10 DD coil.

Good point.
I'll see if Keith Southern will chime in , he lived within a few miles of me in Ga, and believe he's runs thru all the detectors that come out.

 

[Keith Southern]

N/T

 

[Keith Southern]

Both machines would have to be set up to the exact same setting's..And same type coil!

How is the F-75 set up?? we see the Tejon setting's briefly but what about the F-75

I will take a stab at it if you like...The F-75 is in one tone disc probably around 2-3 or so sens below chatter..Watch his screen one sweep it's like 50 something then it's like 10 then 50 then like 6... well if it was in iron disc of 20 on the f-75 I believe we would see some one way hit's like the Tejon
Drop the tejon down low on the disc like that machine and it will hit every time...Sure you will dig iron with the lack of meter like the F-75 offer's but the experienced users know that one way hit's in bad dirt are worth digging....Stick the F-75 in 2 tone iron grunt and high tone together and that bullet is going to grunt and high tone together...

I cant say for sure that's his setting but I said I would stab at it..

Heck it's not hard to make one machine look good and one bad...

I have used many machines and will use many more..But there real close folks when the dirt get's in the way..

Also if you see a video of someone knocking one machine and praising one machine be careful something more than coincidence is going on!

Just my take

Keith

 

[Sven]

 

[Denar]

I have used both detectors in northern part of Poland, where ground is reasonable mild and Tejon is far better and more stable detector than F75. Tejon is the best detector on the market, despite its age and not as advanced technology. It is a very versatile, not too heavy, reasonably priced and extremally productive. I do not care about manipulated tests.

 

[Ronk]

You are 100% right! Here is one way that can be Very deceiving! All one has to do is to remove or loosen some knobs on the pot shaft and before you tighten them back turn the pot shaft closer to minimum then make sure the line or mark on the knobs are pointing towards the max setting and that way it would be impossible for someone watching the video to know what has been done.It would look like the sensitivity was on max when in reality it was really on or near minimum.Very Easy to do and Extremely deceiving to anyone watching the video.I'm Not saying that was done in This video but it Can be done so easy!
Ron

 

[Jay Evans]

I don't even veiw those videos just for that reason.... it's just a tactic to trash a brand and only feeds the fire for arguments for those loyal to certain brands. I'm not into the hobby for all that. I like detecting and the good folks that enjoy the same....

 

[Hombre]

Ok been thinking real hard about either a Tejon or Vaquero as my next Detector purchase. I live in Colorado were Hot Rocks and Minerlized ground are the norm. Heard lots of great things about both machines then I saw this Video. I have to say it made think twice. Can anyone that knows the Tejon explain is poor peformance in these Video. Makes it look like an Explorer vs a Bounty Hunter. My guess is the person using the Tejon does not know how to set it up correctly but does know how to set up the F75 but sure does not look like he was doing anything wrong from what I could tell. Take a look and let me know.

Part 1 Tejon vs Fisher F75 Youtube Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbJLXeWnBiM

Part 2 Tejon vs Fisher F75 Youtube Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJniGwrfAn8

Bryanna

Bryanna Girl

It looks like you whacked the hornet's nest out of the ballpark with this post ! Our good buddy DanielTN has an agenda with this detector comparison.....clearly and readily heard on the video is a way too positive ground balance with the Tejon. The way he has it set up for the video....the Tejon would probably not sound good on a silver dollar. This is a case of operator error or intensional miss-adjustment of the Tejon. JMHO

 

[obolusman]

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[foxhunter]

#1............disc should have been set right @ iron for equal comparison.#2.........ground balance way to pos........