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YESTERDAY MY ETRAC RUNS ON SENS 31:clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping:

I've seen mine up to 31 in auto. This phenomonon comes up every once in a while. Of course in really, really excellent ground.

NebTrac
 
Yes, are you saying the machine ran up to 31 in Auto Sens. - or you set your machine on Manual Sens. 31 ?

I know many of you have gotten great results running in high Manual Sens. - but every time I try running in the higher Manual Sens. settings - all I get is a lot of scattered noise & signal bounce !
I run in Auto. + 3 almost all the time. I'd really like to be able to run in higher Manual settings for more depth !
I don't mind the noise - ( I'm use to noise - I run in 2 Tone Ferrous almost all the time ) it's the target ID' numbers jumping all over that drives me crazy !
Anyone have any suggestions on how I can make the machine run more stable in higher settings of Manual Sens. ???

Thanks in advance for any replies - Happy New Year ! --- Mark
 
If you have fast onand unless it's really trashy turn it off makes the readings a bit jumpy and clips the signal. Then turn Deep on for better target id on deeper objects.

Depends on how high one can run manual. I also use Auto+3 all the time but last couple times out before the ground froze I tried manual because I wanted to see if there was anything else deeper I was maybe missing. Normally the machine around here runs at 17-19 in Auto+3 and I've seen it this summer get to 21-22 in Auto+3 so I tried like 24-26 in manual. Worked good. When I tried to go higher it was noisy and no better so put it where it was the best I thought. Hit a not really deep maybe 7-8" penny and then went to Auto+3 from the manual 26 mode and couldn't get a signal so yes manual can and will find some more things. That said you can still run this machine too hot like the high beams in fog sceneario so look see where your Auto+3 is running and bump up manual 4-5-6 points or so from there and see how it goes. Unless it's fairly high like in the 20's already in Auto+3 Then I would try to run manual all the way up. If in the teens then go to mid 20's in manual and see how she runs.

I'll continue to run in Auto+3 but after hitting a area I will try over it again in Manual to see what if. That's what is so fun about this machine between auto and manual and TTF and the amount of discrimination or lack thereof you can tune and taylor this Etrac any way you want. Makes it almost a Multi Detector in one unit.
 
I'm new with the E-Trac but before I even read Tom's message I was already thinking of some of the things he mentioned. I have been running a lot of auto +3 as well. It is usually around 24 to 29! When it's in that range I run at manual 30. I've checked 7" and 8" targets from manual 30 and they don't hit well with auto below 25 to 27, depending.

I do get a lot more iron falsing and jumpy targets but coming from a T2, a little bit of noise on the E-Trac is still a lot quieter than a normal running T2. ehehe When I run the sensitivity hot or even if it's in auto and up there, I find that running a lower discrim pattern slows me down SO MUCH. (say at the 28 on down line). I find myself checking too many signals, but I guess I'll gain trust in what I'm saying and that will pass. Anyway, I run pretty close to the stock coin program but open the top up a bit. I have found fast off helps and I just keep trash on high and that gives good separation. Also, with fast off (and I've compared signals with it on and off on 7" and 8" targets) the hit is cleaner and a bit longer. I was afraid to have fast off coming from "faster" machines but the E-Trac clearly separates well in trash on high. I run deep on as well.

What I find interesting and have seen it mentioned here as well is that when you run manual you can really slow your swing down. With manual sensitivity I can go really slow and it hits them cleanly. It doesn't seem to like as fast a swing. Not sure why but it must have to do with the three channels being saturated or the like. In auto, even on 8" targets I can sweep quicker over them and they still hit fine. With manual sensitivity I can go really slow and it hits them cleanly.

Like I said, I'm new with this machine but having run a V3i for months, running an E-Trac is really easy so far. And, I really really like the sounds, hated them in videos as they were so different. But now they say a lot. Not saying you can't set it up wrong but when you change a setting, if you check it on a deeper target, you can really see a difference. I actually video'd what I thought was a deep coin. I was barely hitting it running sensitivity at 30. I dug a 5" deep plug and it was still in the plug! The signal was being overwhelmed by what was below it. That was the fog in the headlights and I was BARELY picking the target up. I only dug to learn the machine. It was terrible sounding and not very consistent. I then started playing around with auto with no + or -. I found it was very very clean sounding on the mid range 4" - 5" targets and it of course quiets the iron below.

Last thing and I hope I didn't get to far off topic. When I get to a site sometimes I just open up the discrim to hear what is there. Then I play with the sensitivity to see where the deeper iron starts to quiet down at. I keep that as a reference point and can work around that number.

Really fun machine to learn.
Albert
 
Ive also seen 31, in really really sandy areas. Now I pretty much just have my machine set to manual 24. As far as jumpiness, the channel makes a big difference! make sure to so a noise cancel and see what the machine selects, or play around with it yourself....but ive noticed some channels such as 2 or 4 are extremely noisy on manual 24. but every site is different.
 
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