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7-inch or 10-inch coil for Excalibur-Beach/Surf Hunting

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Surfline

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I use a 7-inch coil on my Excalibur for beach/surf hunting. It has worked well on the Jersey Shore, especially after Nor' Ida. I seem to be one of the only hunters that has the smaller coil. Almost everyone else I see has the larger 10 inch coil. Please give me your thoughts: pros/cons in terms of depth, coverage, weight, discrimination, etc. I was considering upgrading to the larger coil, but not sure it is worth it. All responses are appreciated.

Thanks,

Surfline
 
IMO, larger is NOT an upgrade, stay with what you have. In the list of items you mentioned, the 1000 covers better, THAT'S IT!
 
If you are in iron infested areas then stick with the small coil. I use a 12" SunRay coil on mine, it is great until I hit an area with a lot of iron, then it is almost worthless. Because of the slow response time of the Excal when a large coil passes over an iron target it nulls out and if there happens to be a good target close to the bad one, you will miss it.
 
At least it is for me in Bermuda. My beaches aren't iron infested and the mineralization is extremely low, for me bigger is better. If I had ordered the smaller coil I would have probably stuck with it but I always go with the larger coil. On my Excal, on my CZ-21 and the Whites DF gives me both in one package 6" and 12".
The bigger coils can be a handful in heavy surf so you need to be in good physical condition if that is your hunting ground of choice. Personally, I like the thrill of hunting heavy surf conditions but this isn't everbody's cup of tea.
 
Thanks so far to everyone for the input! I have encountered a decent amount of iron in Jersey, but I guess it also depends on which beach. Like I said, so far, so good. The question is, could I have missed a slightly deeper ring, for example by 1 inch or so with the smaller coil? So far the input is to stick with what I have. Any additional comments are welcome.

Thanks again!

Surfline
 
It depends on what you are used to. I am an eight coil man thru and thru. I may not get the depth that some of the other garbage can lid swinging detetorists get but I think I make up for it in number of targets I dig.

Harvdog
 
Most Excal users for Southern Calif. beaches are using Wot 15" DD coils. Otherwise it seems to be the 10" standard. It's all about coverage during low tide for the wet zone hunters. For example, at Huntington Beach, you have 150 ft by 6 miles of wet zone that is productive during summer months for a minus 1.2 low tide. During fall and winter months, extra black sand conditions below some of the cuts require slowing the sweep speed down or reducing sensitivity, or both for large coils. Wading in the water, the large Wot coil gets a fair tug by the surge, but you learn to go with the force more that fighting against it on your sweeps. Most of us use hip mounts for the control housing, and the aftermarket coil has plenty of extra cable length for this.
 
n/t
 
Surfline,
This is question I am asked often.......

When purchasing an Excal, You have to ask yourself.......Beach or water and percentage of use of each.

If you are NOT planning on using in deep surf then 10. Because you will want coverage of area.

If surf, The 8 is much easier to pinpoint, and control in the water.

Depth, both are about the same. Coverage, 7 vs 10 inch.

Joe DeMarco
 
Bobbie
I know you have a lot of hunting on your detectors.......

When you encounter this situation, slow down to a crawl.

There are spots here like this. This works to hit what everyone miss's.

Joe D
 
Bobbie said:
If you are in iron infested areas then stick with the small coil. I use a 12" SunRay coil on mine, it is great until I hit an area with a lot of iron, then it is almost worthless. Because of the slow response time of the Excal when a large coil passes over an iron target it nulls out and if there happens to be a good target close to the bad one, you will miss it.
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I have to agree with Joe, I actually want a spot with lots of iron or nulls because that is were the heavy stuff accumulates. You have to slow down and pick between the iron this has enabled me to find many rings and other good items.......When you are digging good targets and a piece of iron is with it then you no you are going slow enough...........
 
GH is 100% on................I like the 800 better, for easy in the surf, PPointing and trash...and On depth in disc, you may lose a inch but in Almetal it hits deeper And it has a diffused signal which gives you more coil coverage. So in the trash go disc, when targets are few go Almetal.

ILL....Shows Gold or target can be missed with the 10 in discriminate ..............joe
 
I would say stay with the 8 inch coil. I just got back from the N/Easter at the Carolina Outer Banks and with the current flowing back to the ocean the drag would have been to much on the 10 inch coil. I could barely hold the 8 inch in the surf. goldnugget-Charlotte.N.C.
 
OldBeechnut said:
GH is 100% on................I like the 800 better, for easy in the surf, PPointing and trash...and On depth in disc, you may lose a inch but in Almetal it hits deeper And it has a diffused signal which gives you more coil coverage. So in the trash go disc, when targets are few go Almetal.

ILL....Shows Gold or target can be missed with the 10 in discriminate ..............joe
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Between surface coverage and depth I see a total volume of coverage that is 50% greater with the 10" compared to the 8". I'm willing to finesse my Excal to get around that trash/treasure target issue if I get 50% more volume in my swing.
 
BDA, I believe you do better with the 1000 there in Bermuda because the mineralization is so low. Here we are loaded with black sand and it REALLY wreaks havoc on getting the signal into the ground, even the 800 Sensitivity has to be backed way off at times, to get it stabilized. The 1000 is even worse here.
 
BDA said:
Between surface coverage and depth I see a total volume of coverage that is 50% greater with the 10" compared to the 8". I'm willing to finesse my Excal to get around that trash/treasure target issue if I get 50% more volume in my swing.
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With both, 7.5" & the 10"in the Discriminate mode

Really I see a 60% increase in the volume of each swing which is Amazing, But for me, I am a almetal/reverse hunter most of the time with the Excal there for with the 7.5" in almetal you have a increase of 16% coverage over the 10" in the discriminate mode, A deeper hitting mode that you can swing faster covering more area, with the benefits of a narrower discriminating field to separate/finesse the trash/treasure.................. Joe
 
Joe,

This is exactly what I do. I hunt in all metal mode, find the target, then use disc mode to determine iron or "good." I have passed over iron targets, but after reading other posts, what happens when you disc and think it is iron, but actually iron + "good?" If I am finding many targets, I hunt in disc, then go back to all metal.

So, the hunt continues.

Thanks for your input.

Surfline
 
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