BBS 800 Coil Compatibility

[jeffc]

Any idea what this coil fits? It has a four-pin connector. Thanks.

 

[Suncoast Kid]

Minelab coils

My question is for you more knowledgeable coil enthusiast. Can anyone tell me the difference between three Minelab 8" coils ? # 1- Minelab 8" BBS coil # 2- Minelab 8" Sovereign Tornado DD coil # 3- Minelab 8" Tornado slimline coil I know the physical differences, it's the inner workings...

www.findmall.com

These coils were used on the older Sovereigns. I'm not sure exactly which models, but the link above discusses the same topic. The connector is different than the ones that are for the Sovereign GT, that I have as shown below.

 

[jeffc]

Minelab coils

My question is for you more knowledgeable coil enthusiast. Can anyone tell me the difference between three Minelab 8" coils ? # 1- Minelab 8" BBS coil # 2- Minelab 8" Sovereign Tornado DD coil # 3- Minelab 8" Tornado slimline coil I know the physical differences, it's the inner workings...

www.findmall.com

These coils were used on the older Sovereigns. I'm not sure exactly which models, but the link above discusses the same topic. The connector is different than the ones that are for the Sovereign GT, that I have as shown below. View attachment 85700

Appreciate the insight. I have a GT and an Elite and noticed they are six pins, like you have shown. I found an older post that mentioned being able to install the six pin connector with the four wires on a (presumably older) coil. Just wondering if that's the case and, if so, the coil would work on the GT or the Elite. Thanks.

 

[Rick(ND)]

Any idea what this coil fits? It has a four-pin connector. Thanks.
View attachment 85697

Kind of wonder if this connector wasn't changed by someone. Don't know what it will fit as all the Sovereign coils I have ever seen were the 6 pin one, 5 & 6 are no connection so it there is only wires for pins 1-4 and 5 &6 are no connection.
The original Sovereigns and the XS had a 8 inch coinsearch coil, but was not waterproof so they couldn't be used in water. Then came the BBS 8 as shown and this coil was waterproof and used even on the Excalibur. Now the Slimline was used on the Elite and the GT and some I have seen are also called the Tornado also, but believe they are the same, just different names and are the ones in certain years have the bad cables that the outside rubber coating was cracking and breaking off the cable. I have a brand new one never used that cracked up just hanging on the wall, the other one came on used Sovereign that someone put heat shrink on, I tried to replace but been having problem at this time.
Now on all the different model Sovereign had the 6 connection , the original, the XS, XS2 , XS2a and the elite plus the GT. All the Sovereigns coils are interchangeable from the factory that I understand and no coil from any other detector will work on the Sovereign. I wonder if the 4 wire connector was used on the Advantage and someone put the connector on a BBS coil.
For a new person on the Sovereign I like the 8 inch coinsearch coil as it help learning the Sovereign, but if you are going to use it in standing water then you need the 8BBS coil or the slimline Tornado coil.
These coils are hard to find for the Sovereigns new or used, so like many we are looking for them

Rick

 

[jeffc]

Thanks for the info, Rick. I tend to think someone replaced the connector, too. Going to order a few connectors as I have a couple of the 10" Tornado coils and an FBS as well that are in dire need of new sheathing. I ordered some marine grade heat shrink (at least that is what it says).

 

[ejudasf]

My opinion is to replace the cable. It takes a little time, but if done right, the cable should last for years and years.

 

[Odanscoils]

I would open the connector on one of your good coils.
And compare the colors and wires before you go messing with it.
New plug.
Match the wires to a good one.
Hopefully it didn't get messed up using it on something other than a Sovereign.

People do silly things looking for the best coil.

 

[Rick(ND)]

Kind of wonder if this connector wasn't changed by someone. Don't know what it will fit as all the Sovereign coils I have ever seen were the 6 pin one, 5 & 6 are no connection so it there is only wires for pins 1-4 and 5 &6 are no connection.
The original Sovereigns and the XS had a 8 inch coinsearch coil, but was not waterproof so they couldn't be used in water. Then came the BBS 8 as shown and this coil was waterproof and used even on the Excalibur. Now the Slimline was used on the Elite and the GT and some I have seen are also called the Tornado also, but believe they are the same, just different names and are the ones in certain years have the bad cables that the outside rubber coating was cracking and breaking off the cable. I have a brand new one never used that cracked up just hanging on the wall, the other one came on used Sovereign that someone put heat shrink on, I tried to replace but been having problem at this time.
Now on all the different model Sovereign had the 6 connection , the original, the XS, XS2 , XS2a and the elite plus the GT. All the Sovereigns coils are interchangeable from the factory that I understand and no coil from any other detector will work on the Sovereign. I wonder if the 4 wire connector was used on the Advantage and someone put the connector on a BBS coil.
For a new person on the Sovereign I like the 8 inch coinsearch coil as it help learning the Sovereign, but if you are going to use it in standing water then you need the 8BBS coil or the slimline Tornado coil.
These coils are hard to find for the Sovereigns new or used, so like many we are looking for them

Rick

I seen a 4 pin connector that was used on the Excalibur along with the wiring diagram on a post of OldBeechnut back in October 18 2015. I am thinking as I do remember now that those that wanted to use any of Sovereigns coils had to change the cable end to a 4 pin on those to a 4 pin as the 5 pin I think was for the meter on the Sovereigns which isn't needed. Most all the Excalibur were hard wired on, but some of the early one had the 4 pin one. I know I read that somewhere as the 5th wire was for the meter.
I wanted to show a link to his post, but just couldn't do it or I would have posted the link.

 

[Tony]

These are from Joe's archives. Certainly work for me.
My three coils are all wired the same.

Pin 1 is Red
Pin 2 is Black
Pin 3 is White
Pin 4 is Yellow
Pin 5 and 6 are unused on the Sovereign Plug (And Excalibur)

 

[jeffc]

Appreciate all the help, guys.

 

[Odanscoils]

These are from Joe's archives. Certainly work for me.
My three coils are all wired the same.

Pin 1 is Red
Pin 2 is Black
Pin 3 is White
Pin 4 is Yellow
Pin 5 and 6 are unused on the Sovereign Plug (And Excalibur)

Thanks for posting.