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Curious - how much would be the most you would pay to do a.............

I'd be flexable and willing to pay the piper. I'd also be winning to hunt and LOAN or sell my finds to a museum. I say loan because then they couldn't sell the items if they need money. Most of my best finds are on loan, displayed where they were found. They belong to me but they are displayed somewhere else.

I'd really love to see the system that they have in Britain put into place here. There is no reason for relics to be rotting away to nothing in our ground.


I am very interested. I hope whoever puts this together considers that a good part of the detecting community is not as young as they once were and while some can hunt from dawn till dusk... some need a little more time to get going.

Julien
 
I would not have interest in hunting fields...its the old mansions that caught my interest...it would seem that there would have to be ground rules as there would
certainly be preferred areas on the property and there would have to be a system to determine who hunted where. I would hesitate to say any piece of ground
anywhere had never been detected. Good detectors have been around for almost 50 years and there is no way to say for certain that no one with a detector has
not been there before.
 
I like the loan idea... that works well for me. My joy is in finding the relics, i've never sold anything I have found.

I didn't read any of the responses before my initial post at the top. An 8 or 9 AM start works for me. I don't go to any of the piad relic hunts anymore because if I have to be sitting in a truck on the property awaiting daylight... i'm done already. Getting older, the aches and pains, and the meds... take a toll on one. I can go for hours but I need my rest.

Sounds really interesting.

J
 
Hello Julien - these outings are being set-up to be as flexible as possible.
That means we will have the location, with directions provided, available all day for those persons registered.
You are free to come and go (on that day) as you please.

Most everyone wants to know they can get in a lot of hunting time - so it works both ways - plenty of time for those that want it, and total flexibility for those that need it.

Hello again Battleborn - I will be scheduling the different type hunts (plowed fields, estates, public areas) and advising everyone accordingly. If you only prefer the grass hunt on either the estate or off-limits public properties - then you will be free to register for those as soon as they are announced - I'm sure there will be a lot of demand for them and the numbers will have to be strictly limited - maybe no more than 1 person per lawn acre +/-. That could amount to perhaps no more than 4 hunters that day.

I will keep everyone posted sometime after we finalize details next Saturday.

Thanks
Barry
 
1 person per lawn acre

That is a lot of area for one person ifthe site is good, IMO. I can hunt an acre of ground that has relics, like a calvary camp etc... for months and make consistant finds. Of course the easy stuff comes out easily but much of the better stuff has to be finessed out, especially in 300 yrs of trash. (I'm thinking more about a lawn that about a plowed field) We can move much faster through a field than through an old lawn.

I wouldn't assume that anyone knows how to properly recover a target in a nice lawn without leaving damage. I hunt lawns a good bit and I never take someone with me until I first take them to a park with me and see how they recover... there have been several times this past year when I was really glad I did that because I would have been horrified had I taken them to someone's nice lawn with me... proper recovery is going to take a little extra time.

If I were you i'd start the hunts in the fields. If you need to learn anything about the process you are trying to put together, better to learn it before you get to the lawn of a multimillionaire.



Just saying...

I know, I know... too cynical... :|

Julien
 
Julien - I totally agree and I'm sure every serious member of this forum will too. The plowed fields are plentiful and we will need to work out the "kinks" of this program there, first. Also, I was already thinking of requiring any hunters that want to do the exclusive mansion lawns and off limits public area lawns (think certified historic structure properties) to have already participated on a plowed field hunt first - in order to to get to know them a little better. Of course all hunts will have specific rules in place and they will be enforced. We can't allow anyone that is totally selfish to ruin this opportunity for everyone else.

This project is more about building a good "team" of artifact detecting associates - who are interested in working these properties time and again. People who get just as excited for the other guy when he makes a great find as when they make a great find themselves.

We're all in this together. Our goal is to change the perceptions by the general public and community leaders about our hobby and hopefully gain more access to better sites. Over time I think that can be accomplished. Minelab Senior Management has been contacted and is very excited to be involved with this project. I have been in communication with both Des Dunne and the USA management team in Las Vegas and we are working on some joint plans.

More to follow...
Barry
 
oldcoins - this is not being defensive BUT I am extremely confused. Above you say "many of us in Long Island will think that this is looking for a needle in a haystack" and in the below post that you made in November you say you are from upstate NY. What should we believe? You claim to have found only trash and nails with your E-Trac - now I know why you found only 2 good coins in 25 years. You needed my advice? -Heck, I've only been detecting for 7 months...And on another post that I made, you attacked my great find and Guvner had to step in and censure one of your posts (see below)...I'm starting to think you got it in for me????
Maybe it's time you moved onto more positive and constructive commentary. Thanks Nick for your understanding.

Here is the first post:

Re: Old NY farm continues to deliver...silver and copper
Posted by: oldcoins [ Send a Message ]
Date: November 29, 2009 06:14PM Registered: 2 months ago
Posts: 9

I am from upstate New-york and got recently my etrack.I am amazed by your results and your adventures.I have found only trash and nails .How do you do it? I need you advise and know how Barry.Thanks for your help.Nick

Here is the other post:

Re: Amazing find in trashy pumpkin patch...anything is possible
Posted by: oldcoins [ Send a Message ]
Date: December 07, 2009 06:24PM Registered: 2 months ago
Posts: 9

I have none but what thing that I know for sure, and may be you do not know is that silver do not deteriorate in the ground and stay the same as it enter.Unless you can present a correct picture instead of a black ghost against a beautiful coin your story is kind of funny.
I must say this is very clever.Everybody is looking at the coin that you picked from the internet and not at your dark coin that can be anything .Wake up guys.

Here is Guvner's response:

I personally think you need to keep your opinions about silver in the ground to yourself. You've obviously never dug silver where the ground is very wet year round...
Posted by: Guvner [ Send a Message ]
Date: December 07, 2009 07:33PM Admin
Registered: 4 years ago
Posts: 2,356

I've dug lots of silver, especially in old drained lakes that gets quite black. And it's nearly impossible to get the stain off of it. Make sure you know what you're talking about before you post and embarrass yourself next time. (If I even allow you the chance next time...) I just might get up and go scan some of mine and let you call me a liar too...

Guvner..
 
This just sound's great... I am so glad to see it. Maybe it will begin to change things all over the USA. I'd love to see some planned hunts on some of the Battlefield parks. There is absolutely no reason to leave buttons, plates, guns, etc in the ground to corrode away when they can be recovered, cleaned, and displayed in park museums. The public would love to see the relics and the parks sure could benefit from it. They really need a financial boost of some sort. In the parks they could assign a volunteer "watcher" to each hunter and it could work well.

What you are doing is really exciting. I hope it starts something.

J
 
As a Long Islander I certainly be interested and would pay $75 for a day in those kinds of areas that I know can hold great,old finds.
 
Barry Keep up the good work, you have been into this hobby for how long....less then a year...And you are opening doors for a some chance of a lifetime hunts...:thumbup:........Joe
 
All good Barry
 
Hi barry, I am very interesteed in your upcoming Colonial hunt. Please put my name on your list. Thanks. Paleomike
 
I am 13 miles across the sound on the southern CT shore.... I'm in if this comes to be... I benjamin sounds reasonable...
 
Barry was very active on the forums. But now i haven't heard anything. We did switch email a couple of times and I'm on the list as well. I wonder if this is still going though?
 
Actually, I was in England for a hard core metal detecting trip from 3/12-3/19. I went there to see what a professionally run, paid detecting trip is all about. Returned home to a few business and personal issues which kept me off the forums for awhile. As an FYI - I do not believe that spending what amounted to $3000, all in, for a week hunting ploughed England farmlands was really worth the money. Yes, there were some cool finds made by myself and the others including hammered silvers and various do-dads from the 16th and 17th centuries - but the steep price paid will most likely never get returned with a major find to anyone - a lottery ticket has a greater chance of a good payoff...but see below if finding 1700's to early 1800's era coins and other items for $100/day is of interest to you....PS - those who had Explorers and/or E-Trac's kicked serious butt over those who used a V-3.....

Now for the update on the colonial era hunt program:

As a matter of fact, the program has been officially APPROVED by the Historical Society as of last Thursday.
My previous postings were to "gauge" the interest and price point which I used in my formal presentation to the Board of Trustees.
We are meeting this coming Tuesday to review the next steps and start the process of producing our professional quality video to raise awareness of the program.
It looks like the first hunts will be taking place this coming fall. Most likely 4-5 weekends comprising 8-10 hunt days for 10-15 hunters each.
All who have shown an interest - I have your user names and/or emails. When the membership sign-up is ready everyone will be contacted.

Thanks for the continued interest. Contact me for more info.
Barry
barryny@optonline.net
 
I think Barry mentioned this in the beginning, not as a requirement but as an option. Which personally I think is a great idea... that our finds could be placed on loan to the local museum. For those who don't know... when you donate something to a museum, the museum may later sell your item(s) to raise money for something else that they want or need. However, loaned items cannot be sold or given away and you can reclaim them at some future date if you want.

I have never sold any relics i've found. I will clean and cash in clad of course and would sell a nice piece of jewelry if I found it but not relics and... and in this case I think the museum is interested.

Anyway, I just wanted to mention this. I really enjoy making the find and saving a piece of history, loaning it to a museum to be displayed for everyone to enjoy seems like a good idea to me.

Like I said, I don't think Barry said it was a requirement but since you can still own the piece... I think it would be great PR for our hobby. I'm sure it would make a great story in the local media (maybe even wider media if we try to get it there), open other doors, and maybe even help with relations between us and the archies... maybe one day we can have a relationship with our archies like Britain has with it's instead of this adversarial relationship we now have.

So...

What do you think?

Julien
 
I would love to come but, the distance is to far. Does your club have a home page? I would love to follow this story and maybe use the outcome to influence clubs and political parties in my area. Keep us posted. Great idea you all have there! :super:
 
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