ETrac US coin numbers better pee first, it's long:smoke:

[digitrich]

British half penny 11-37/12-37
Large cent 4-46 / 5-46 / 6-46 / 7-46
Flying eagle cent 12-23
1863 Indian penny 12-23
1864 Indian penny 12-30 /12-31 /12-32
assorted Indians 12-34 /12-35 /12-36
civil war penny tokens 12-46
wheat 12-41
steelie 35-43 / 35-44
zinc penny 12-37
Canadian large cent 12-34 ,on edge 12-32/12-33
2 cent piece 12-39 / 12-40/ 12-41
nickel 3 cent 12-04 / 12-03 / 12-02
Queen Victoria silver 3 pence 12-37
Silver British 3 pence 1930-1940 12-23 /12-24 / 12-40
Civil war 3 ring bullets 12-21/12-22/12-23
Minni-Ball 12-29 / 12-30
small caliber civil war bullets (about the size of 22 slugs) DID NOT REGISTER WHATSOEVER, odd since I find them with my SE regularly at 6 -8 inches deep:confused
Capped bust half dime 12-39 /11-38 /11-39 on edge 10-40 / 11-40
Seated lib 1/2 dime 12-38
shield nickels and v nickels 12-12 / 12-13
Buffalo Nickel 12-12 /12-13
Jeff nickel 12-14 /12-15 on edge 7-46 / 6-46
Jeff Nickel silver 12-15 / 12-16 bloody bizarre
Seat Dime 11-43 / 12-43 / 12-44, on edge 12-45
Barb dime 12-43 /12-44, on edge 12-45
Mercury Dime 12-44, on edge 13-45
Silver Rosie 12-45 / 12-46
Modern dime 12-44
20 cent piece.... I wish
Seated Quarters 12-46 / 11-46 / 11-47 ON EDGE VERY DIFFERENT : 8-48
Barb Quarters 12-46 /12-47 ON EDGE VERY DIFFERENT: 10-47 / 10-48 / 6-49 / 4-49 /1- 50 Black tarnish makes these numbers go all over the place
Walk Lib Quarter 11-46 / 12-46, On Edge: 1-49 / 2-49 / 1-50
Wash Silver Quarter 11-46 , ON EDGE : 1-49
Modern clad Washington Quarter 12-46, ON EDGE: TOO MANY NUMBERS TO LIST- try it
Seated Halves 11-46 / 11-47 ON EDGE: 1-49 / 2-49 / 3-49
Barb Halves 7-47 / 8-47 / 9-46 / 10-47 ON EDGE 1-50
Walking Liberty Halves 6-46 / 7-46 On EDGE 1-50
Ben Franklin Silver Half 4-46 / 2-45 / 3-45
Kennedy clad half 9-46/9-47 ON EDGE 8-47 / 7-47
Ike Half 1-41, On edge1-46
Morgan Dollar 1-42
Peace Dollar 1-42, ON EDGE 1-43 / 1-44
Susan B Anthony 12-46

BOMBSHELL COMING READ CAREFULLY>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

HOT ROCKS..........NO SIGNAL in all metal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
COAL SLAG...........NO Signal either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Iron meteorite.... I am not telling
Stony Iron Meteorite...........NO SIGNAL!!!!!!
STONY METEORITE..........NO SIGNAL!!!!!!!!

AND THE MOST GROUND BREAKING NEWS OF ALL.........Huge Hot ROCK or coal slag on top of silver quarter...........Just reads the quarter as if the rocks aren't there at all

BAG OF HOT ROCKS>>>>>>NO SIGNAL 1 gallon zip lock bag!!!! Where was that in the sales literature, put a quarter in the bag with the hot rocks, and YES it hits the quarter!!

The hot rocks and coal slag gave NO signal in all metal whatsoever. Occasional tiny null on every 6Th swing or so, yes, nulling in all metal

All these air tests were done outside, noise canceled, auto sens, low trash, neutral ground, ALL METAL in quick mask, fast off, deep off, conduct tones, 3 different PRO 11 coils.
When I tried these tests in coin pattern the numbers were sloppier (jumped around a bit) than in all metal
Whomever decided to put that disc line at the top right of the screen obviously did not test large US Silver on edge....I still haven't figured out what else hits there I thought it was for hot rocks, but they don't register.
No coins registered farther than 8 inches (dollars and halves) most would not ID further than 6 inches

When I first started testing, the numbers jumping around and weird on edge results made me think I had a bum coil, same results all three coils though.
Now, I did all this work, so someone tell me if you get similar results on your machine please.

Next is the trash list, not tonight though. One things for sure though, pull tabs are coming to a theater near you soon.

As for people saying it doesn't iron false, It did on me, on 5-6 inch Large nails at #'s 1-30 and 1-35 but technically it is not really falsing as there are no coins that hit there according to the list above. Correct me if I am wrong. I dug several large nails today as well as every bloody kind of pull tab imaginable from 12-21, all the way up and through 12-30, most were the same damn tab and hit in 6 or 7 locations all on the 12 ferrous line. How any one is using this and digging no trash, I can't figure. I got 2 pennies, modern, a modern dime, several pieces of small aluminum, And 1 very nice V nickel " 3 inches deep" I could have found with my SE, I think 1892 (in the truck), 2 modern nickels and a bag o trash, most of which I dug to see what it twas. As for going into a park, switching this on and having deepies and silver jump in your bag, it's not happening, my deepest target so far has been a 6 inch deep shotgun shell, but the soil is fairly dry and I have been using fast, difficult soil, dense trash, auto sens +/- 1, coin pattern with that line edited out on the top right, who knows if these settings are right or wrong. God, I want to hunt in all metal, with these pretty tones.

On the MLO site there is a video of a guy swinging his ETrac over a coin AND a Dargone nail the size of yer pinkie and he is hearing a clean signal with his coil12-14 inches above them both. HOW COME I CAN'T GET AN AIR TEST SIGNAL ON MINE ABOVE 8 INCHES??? I am beginning to worry there is something wrong with the way I have it set up or the machine itself, regardless of rain, dry soil is not going effect an air test two feet off the ground, I am at a loss.

 

[jimpugh]

I do not know how to tell you this .........BUT by..... what you are telling me.......sounds like your machine aint right.....

Try a reset .......do not do like me and do a master reboot and loose the minelab extra programs like foil, nails, and all that ...you should back it up on PC before you do a master boot.

I am still learning this unit. I just use the 4 programs that stay in it at the moment ....have not made custom yet, but will with my 8 lbs of gold .........If I can put it down long enough!

As you have seen on the video's this thing has depth to spare and i have dug NO IRON.... also on the minelab site it has a neat answer question Page with some good info that I have not seen any where else...
hope this helps

Jim Pugh

 

[digitrich]

Does yours ignore hot rocks, coal slag and small lead?? And do you get different readings on the coins on edge?

 

[jimpugh]

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[jimpugh]

I hope you read my other post to you under the coin picture ......I forgot to add that i Usually just listen for the right sound that sweet coin sound and crank it up just enough to have her sputter but not choke.....
Happy Trails
jim

 

[mattockman]

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[Erik in NJ]

Great post - thanks for your hard work. What's the Large Cent doing at Fe 4, 5, 6? That makes no sense to me.

 

[jbow]

especially the pulltab numbers. With the SE they usually hit just above a nickle, like 10-7, so I don't dig many. Can slaw usually reads 12-2 or close to that. I will not be happy if I have to dig all can slaw and pulltabs. Also those quarters on edge, heck coins in general on edge... I'd really like to know if others are getting that, also I wonder if it is different when the coin has been in the ground for a while. I guess digging signals with a 1 as a first number, (in a place where a lot of coins live), and see if any of them turn out to be coins... might help to answer this.

Time will tell I guess...

Oh, Wednesday I took my SE to a place I have hunted to death with several machines and pulled out a small caliber CW bullet like you are talking about. I will check the E Trac with it when the maching gets here, probably the end on next week.

Now I will have to sell my SE... can't keep everything...

J

 

[Jim upstate NY]

I know it took me quite a while to do my coins the other day.. As for the hot rocks that's a very good thing as it is one of the explorers down falls, making it almost impossible to hunt in areas that are loaded with them.. bot that you can not tell that's what they are but all teh noise you cant make out a coin near them if you tried.. also remember hot rocks in the hand are not always a good test... they need the ground they are in back ground.. seldom do I get a signal on them in the air or in tests bringing them home, when in the area they were found in they really let loose.. now some of the mineralized rocks like graphite they go off no matter where they are were you in open screen when testing them? and do these same rocks hit with your explorer.. I hope so then I have a few almost unhuntable spots with coal slag iron and hot rocks combined over a sea of coins

I guess this machine might be a killer when looking for halfs and dollars in the trash.. at least they read close to the right ferrousity

Do me a favor and take a few readings on different sized 22 casings... they read on the explorer in the same conductive area as nickel three cents, but a bit different on ferrous.. if they go up to 12 also, then your readings should be exactly the same bad enough yo get the pull tab mix, but on the explorer the fat indians and flying eagles are also in that range... looks like a lot more sorting out to do... Still dont understand how minelab thinks this is better.. merging all that stuff on the 11-12 ferrous line... can only make it more confusing unless your digging it all.. but if you do that you don't need a number anyway..
I will be working on my explorer chart with trash during Hannas visit tomorrow, I dug quite a bit of trash last couple days to get a pile to test.. I might make a chart from your readings if you dont mind to compare the differences

 

[Jim upstate NY]

take a stack of 4 to 6 halfs and or silver dollars and see what the machine does.. I bet you will be quite suprised, or maybe I will be

 

[digitrich]

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[digitrich]

My SE still picks them up right now, just did it. And YES I was in all metal on the ETrac. I am assuming that ML has figured out a way of canceling hot rocks and coal slag out by treating as high ground mineralization, which is the first detector I have ever heard of being able to do that. Not only does it not respond to the rocks and slag but it can "see" coins through, next to etc. the SAME as if I was holding a quarter in a handful of plain dirt. As far as hot rocks and coal slag, Mine Lab has ACTUALLY accomplished "see through technology" Now give me back my ferrous tones, and I can quit my day job

 

[digitrich]

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[digitrich]

Well, most of his advice as I forgot to download the tab and nail programs first...oops. I then put the machine in manual sensitivity..30; I could then pick up a quarter at 10, inches air test, in my garage with the lights on 5 feet from two freezers. Imagine it would do better outside. Now I don't know if you could hunt in manual 30, so how important that info is only time will tell. Hunting in auto at the four sites I have tried seemed to hover around 16.

 

[Erik in NJ]

I thought all coins (esp. Copper, silver, and clad) were supposed to have a FE around 12 - what does a copper penny read - PLs try the LC again there must be something wrong there.

 

[jbow]

I have only been hunting in AM/ferrous with the SE for a short while and don't understand the problem. It says that you have the option of 4 tones with the ETrac, why does this not work well enough? If you're hearing everything except iron and you have numbers... won't you be able to tell if the target is not iron? Is it that you cannot tell non-ferrous trash from non-ferrous coinage?

I'm probably just missing the obvious... but I have an ETrac coming andam interested in learning all I can from you and others who have som much more experience.

Me>>> ...

J

 

[jbow]

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[digitrich]

Let me rephrase that to: it hasn't happened to me yet. It may happen to you your very first day, and like all Explorers, a lack of ground moisture may be the root cause of my lack of results at these sites. Using my Se in this current dry ground, I have to work hard to make finds. So at this time it is probably unfair to make any judgments. When I first got my SE, it took me 2 or 3 months before I realized I needed to turn my gain down and to get a handle on the tones. Once I did away with most of the discrimination and learned the tones, it all clicked and zoom ever since. Don't let my frustration in any post persuade you in any direction as I am no where's near figuring this thing out. I am only sharing this info with you guys to help. Most of the pull tabs I dug because I was curious and they were a solid repeating signal. I don't know where small gold coins hit and until I do, I will be digging a bit of trash. If this machine has the ability to find smaller coins, such as gold next to trash, well I want to figure out how to find them. What was incredibly interesting to me was that different identical coins with corrosion, scaling and or tarnish moved the ID some, +/- 1 point on ferrous and conduct, this beast is very sensitive. I tried to maintain equal distance, levelness and equal speed in these air tests, but some of these results are not going to be perfectly accurate. One other thing, as has been stated numerous times on this form is that air test for depth are not true depths in ground. I wonder if having the coins on the ground would help with distance results as then the machine would have the ground to compare against? I am also going to compare my SE with some of the results that seemed odd as I am curious.

 

[Erik in NJ]

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[jimpugh]

this IS the only detector to pass this test.....

[size=x-large]It is not an explorer period[/size]

will not HIT on a paper coffee cup filled with 1/2 inch of concentrated Black sand......tone stays the same in the Crop mode sorry can

not remember the name of One of the three screens available on the fly, I think some of yall are calling it ......All metal and that is fine ...but it is a lot more and effects the innards when you switch to this mode......

the main thing is any other detector including most pulse detectors will hit this sand I have.....

If you put a nickel in the cup and angle the sand to cover it good you still get a digable nickel (when using a nickel) or silver quarter (when using a silver quarter) tone ...

I have said it once and I will say it Again this thing is light years ahead of The explorer ......

the ones that try to treat IT as such, A explorer will have a tuff go! The ferrous thingy that has yalls panties in a wad is a none issue

if you know this machine

forget all you know except to swing it properly.......study study study the manual and hunt.......

the biggest second mistake will be over driving it and going crazy with the audio gain.....

well i hope this helps......

I will not repeat myself again Thank you for your patience I am learning and finding as fast as I can!

Happy Trails
Jim Pugh