ferrous line

[Digga03]

hey board

where is everyone setting their ferrous line with Combined audio ?

thanks

 

[unearth]

I set mine, at the moment, at 25.

 

[Gonehunting]

24... for the time being..

 

[Digger]

I like Combined audio so much, I actually have 4 different Search Modes with that audio profile. The biggest difference between them is the size of the bins and the tones assigned to each. In my slightly modified Coin Program with Combined Audio, I have the ferrous line set at 19. Pattern 1 has all ferrous properties greater than 23 set to reject. So the only "low tone" I hear is for ferrous properties between 19 and 23. I've not dug any coins with a ferrous greater than 19. But at least this way I'll hear it if there is one, and make the decision to dig based on the conductive TID. Pattern 2 is a wide open screen. JMHO HH Randy

 

[Digga03]

yes its all new to me but having been with the CTX now for 3 weeks decided its time to have a go at this and see how it works, so you can run the 5 tones over a discrimination pattern? i just wiped the screen clean in coin pattern one and put the 5 tones in that and made the silver as high as i could.

i have a question how do i get back to combined ferrous conductive tones on coin pattern 2 just push the detect button or is it more work that that ?

cheers for the help guys appreciate it

 

[Gonehunting]

I like Combined audio so much, I actually have 4 different Search Modes with that audio profile. The biggest difference between them is the size of the bins and the tones assigned to each. In my slightly modified Coin Program with Combined Audio, I have the ferrous line set at 19. Pattern 1 has all ferrous properties greater than 23 set to reject. So the only "low tone" I hear is for ferrous properties between 19 and 23. I've not dug any coins with a ferrous greater than 19. But at least this way I'll hear it if there is one, and make the decision to dig based on the conductive TID. Pattern 2 is a wide open screen. JMHO HH Randy

I like that last idea and will be adding it to my machine.. thanks Digger

 

[Digger]

yes its all new to me but having been with the CTX now for 3 weeks decided its time to have a go at this and see how it works, so you can run the 5 tones over a discrimination pattern? i just wiped the screen clean in coin pattern one and put the 5 tones in that and made the silver as high as i could.
i have a question how do i get back to combined ferrous conductive tones on coin pattern 2 just push the detect button or is it more work that that ?

Yep, you can run 5 tones over the discrimination Pattern. But realize that if all the targets in one of the "bins" are rejected, you won't hear that tone. Only the nulling of rejected targets. For example, if your discrimination pattern rejects all targets below the ferrous line of 27, and you set the ferrous line of the Combined bin to 28, you won't hear any targets in that lower bin because you rejected them in discrimination.

Actually, you wouldn't have had to wipe the screenn clean. Pattern 2 is already set up with only the ferrous line 35 rejected. If you want the "default" discrimination of Pattern one reimplemented, you may want to go on XChange 2 and retrieve it from your profile. Otherwise, build one yourself. It don't take but a few minutes.

You could have opened the Coin Search mode, changed the audio profile to Combined, then saved it under another name. Then it would be a "new" Search mode with Combined audio, and you wouldn't have lost the original Coin program settings.

answer to your last question.... you go "back and forth" between the two Patterns by pressing the Detect button. Nothing more!

HH Randy

 

[Digga03]

thanks Randy

so running 5 tones in the open screen is the go anyway so that's kool, not to worried about losing the coin pattern but will set up another like you said for those spots that are full of junk, i like to hear everything for the most part anyway, but having different patterns is good too have there, just have to fiddle with the CTX some more to learn how to navigate around and set it up better all takes time and God willing still have some left

if i learnt everything in one day i would probably sell it as the big part of the fun for me is exploring the machine and how it works so will try out what i done then make some adjustments i am sure.

up until now just had iron blocked out at 25 using combined ferrous conductive tones with ferrous coin on and have been having fun but thought i might have a crack at the 5 tones in a park with lots of low conductive trash and put the silver up high and see what happens

thanks for the help will report on how it goes.

 

[earthmansurfer]

I have been running mine at 28 due to the bouncing I experienced on the E-Trac in my iron mineralized ground. But, I may drop it to 24 as I am not seeing the bounciness with the Fe numbers. Need to get into an area with deeper targets to check that. But thus far I'm not getting much iron above that number either, so it's not hurting anything and leaves open coin bounces should they appear.

Albert

 

[Larry (IL)]

I get along very well with it at 31 and I am still experimenting for the ideal coin program. My main concern right now is not listening to all of the foil and small can slaw at the expense of not getting the very small gold rings. Bin 2 and 4 are at 1200 and Bin 1 and below FE20 is 75 Hz so I can be sleep walking and when a high tone is heard I wake up and dig......

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[brocifus]

Upper right is disc out? isnt that big silver?

 

[Larry (IL)]

It could be really big silver but the dollar is usually 01-44 to 01-48. That is the way ML has their coin program set up, I'm guessing to help stop wrap. I also think that is a "dumping spot" where targets that it can not be placed anywhere else is put. I will have to play with it some more, it is real easy to accept those two if you don't want them. I have P2 as a back up to this pattern that is pretty much an open screen.

 

[earthmansurfer]

Larry - I like what you did with disc'ing out that little bit on the left. I thought I was disc'ing minimal at 28 on down, but you got me beat with 31. Have you tried just disc'ing out the lower right hand corner? I have been running that and it seems like that is where most iron hits. I'm curious if there is a disadvantage or possible advantage with me doing that? e.g. increased speed

Thanks,
Albert

 

[Larry (IL)]

That is my next step Albert, I have just been reducing the pattern down a little at a time and your idea is a good one.

 

[Digga03]

discrimination doesn't seem to slow the CTX down.

 

[Larry (IL)]

No, it doesn't slow it down, but it has been proven that less discrimination gets deeper and a better target ID. If I can come up with a bare minimum pattern that rejects most iron and foil, I will be real happy.

 

[Digga03]

sounds good to me when you work it out can you post it up i will help you test it out

 

[Larry (IL)]

This is what I'm going to try this weekend. Help yourself and see what you think.

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[Digga03]

will do thanks Larry will see how it goes

oh what tones you running 5 tones or multi ?