Well all I can say is I think its a winner. Went to a super trashy old house today that I have already hammered and was pulling out some buttons and odds and ends that I was not able to pick up in multi conductive. My theory is that with the proper coil and swing technique and maybe your angle of attack you can find anything in multi tone conduct. 2 tone ferrous is just fool proof and I can swing without thinking that I am missing anything. The machine is just super fast and that is what you need combined with a semi slow swing speed. jmho HH Joe
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My thoughts on 2 tone ferrous
- Thread starter etracjoe
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E-Trac-Ohio
Well-known member
That's what I've seen so far - I agree with you 100 % !
EladSwerdna
New member
Hmmmm I always have hunted in multi tone. I am going to get out today after work for 3+ hours. I will try the 2 tone set-up and let you guys know how it went. 
2-tone ferrous is definitely a good method for heavy iron trashy spots using a s-l-o-w sweep. It's amazing what you find mixed with iron trash in spots I have hunted over ten times with the conductive settings.
One thing I noticed: where the good targets are super deep (8+ inches), I am hardly finding any good targets using 2-tone ferrous. I believe it is because I am already concentrating very hard and taking more risks digging iffy targets in these super deep spots. But I would be interested in hearing what others think.
One thing I noticed: where the good targets are super deep (8+ inches), I am hardly finding any good targets using 2-tone ferrous. I believe it is because I am already concentrating very hard and taking more risks digging iffy targets in these super deep spots. But I would be interested in hearing what others think.
Detectorguru
New member
Being a relic hunter two tone is all I ever use. I clear the screen to hear all signals.
niterider_58
New member
I MUST SAY AFTER TRYING FERROUS 2 TONE FOR THE LAST TWO WEEKS I'M SOLD ON IT. WE HAVE HIT THIS PLACE FOR YEARS PULLING OLD SILVER AND LOTS OF INDIANS BUT NONE AT ALL LATELY. WE HUNTED THIS SPOT WITH THE XS EX_2 AND SE. NOW WITH THE E_TRAC AND A SMALL COIL USING 2 TONE FERROUS THE SILVER IS COMMING OUT AND 17 INDIANS HAVE BEEN PULLED OUT IN TWO DAYS 
SO I WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL THAT TALKED ME IN TO TRYING IT....THIS ONE'S FOR YOU 
THANK YOU ....PHIL
SO I WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL THAT TALKED ME IN TO TRYING IT....THIS ONE'S FOR YOU THANK YOU ....PHILin the woods
New member
I've been experimenting with the 2 tone ferrous the last few weeks. No apparent luck yet, but these are cllar holes mostly. I plan to go to the local park soon and give it a try there.
Question: Does silver tone in differently than clad in two tone ferrous? Or, do you dig all the same coin signals that you get in Conductive mode.?
I'm wondering what the advantage is if the park is full of clad anyways? The park has been "cleaned" out, but is still a very active park and new coins are always popping up.
Tin Pan Man
Question: Does silver tone in differently than clad in two tone ferrous? Or, do you dig all the same coin signals that you get in Conductive mode.?
I'm wondering what the advantage is if the park is full of clad anyways? The park has been "cleaned" out, but is still a very active park and new coins are always popping up.
Tin Pan Man
Southwind
Well-known member
Yes I'm still a bit confused on the"advantage" of 2 tone ferrous. Seems to me it's the false highs/conductive from iron that gives me fits, so how does 2 tones ferrous change that? Wouldn't you still get the false highs/conductive from pointed iron whether you were in 2 tones or multiple tones, and separating ferrous from conductive, in either 2 tones or multi-tone, would still be subject to the same false iron signals. I can see where MAYBE it would help where iron masking was involved, but thats just a matter of running with the right discrimination settings not tones.
2 tone ferrous changes all that you are concerned about by giving you a LOW tone for all iron signals no matter what the conductivity numbers are and by giving you a HIGH tone for any items that are FE 17 or below - typically the keeper items.
this way you can totally disregard even stopping and thinking about a low tone while in 2 tone FE mode and only focus on the high tones - there are no longer any false highs from those iron targets that are reading in the high 40's on the conductivity scale - you know those 25-45 to 29-49 rusty nails...
once you get a high tone in FE 2 tone mode, a quick look at your screen for the CO number (and depth) will tell you what potentially is down there.
the best way to work this method (FE 2 tone) is to go out and do it. also with 2 tone FE - you must keep the screen wide open except for some CO discrimination on the FE 01 line from CO1-38 and CO 49-50 to keep out some wrap around iron falsing.
it works real well especially in dig everything that's not iron conditions plus hunted out and iron infested spots.
this way you can totally disregard even stopping and thinking about a low tone while in 2 tone FE mode and only focus on the high tones - there are no longer any false highs from those iron targets that are reading in the high 40's on the conductivity scale - you know those 25-45 to 29-49 rusty nails...
once you get a high tone in FE 2 tone mode, a quick look at your screen for the CO number (and depth) will tell you what potentially is down there.
the best way to work this method (FE 2 tone) is to go out and do it. also with 2 tone FE - you must keep the screen wide open except for some CO discrimination on the FE 01 line from CO1-38 and CO 49-50 to keep out some wrap around iron falsing.
it works real well especially in dig everything that's not iron conditions plus hunted out and iron infested spots.
Southwind
Well-known member
I guess what I mean is that the problem with iron, especially pointed, is that it gives a false high tone because it gives a false CO number. It would give the same false CO number and still give off a high tone in 2 tone ferrous would it not? I guess I should just try it huh?
Frank in NH
Active member
Been playing with 2 tone on my E-Trac works great also set up my back up XS the same way. I like it!
Southwind said:
no iron will NOT false in 2 tone ferrous UNLESS you swing too fast. If you swing nice and slow, you will get no falsing. In fact sometimes when I am in conductive and I get a real iffy signal and I check it in quickmask and I am still not sure I flip it into 2 tone ferrous and re-check the target, it WILL verify whether or not there is a good target mixed in with the iron. It is amazing and you will NOT be fooled, deep iron does NOT false when using this method. It is literally amazing.
Actually I think that at a particularly productive but trashy site you should, considering you have access and time, hunt first in ferrous/2-tone and then in conductive/multi or even conductive 4 tone.
The best thing about ferrous/2-tone IMO is that it cuts WAY down in falses and turns WAY up on hitting those iffy masked good targets... still there may be a few things left that you will hear in conductive/multi after you've cleaned up a good bit with F/2T.
I am a big believer in F/2T and have been preaching it since the ET came out. I think when an experienced Explorer user runs the ET in conductive/multi the user is going to unconciously try to make the ET be an Explorer... and the ET isn't an Explorer, never was meant to be. Just run a little disc like the relic pattern and everything else to your liking and the ET will produce in F/2T.
J
The best thing about ferrous/2-tone IMO is that it cuts WAY down in falses and turns WAY up on hitting those iffy masked good targets... still there may be a few things left that you will hear in conductive/multi after you've cleaned up a good bit with F/2T.
I am a big believer in F/2T and have been preaching it since the ET came out. I think when an experienced Explorer user runs the ET in conductive/multi the user is going to unconciously try to make the ET be an Explorer... and the ET isn't an Explorer, never was meant to be. Just run a little disc like the relic pattern and everything else to your liking and the ET will produce in F/2T.
J
You have to rely on the conductive number and you need to use little disc like the relic pattern. The conductive number is very reliable. The ferrouse number may be in a prett wide range. The good conductive number may be only from one direction but if it keeps hitting on or close... dig it. You can't rely on audio to ID targets in ferrous/2-tone... all it will tell you by the audio is ferrous or non-ferrous.
J
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