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hunter12

Member
I have a Tesoro Sand Shark , It's a great machine, I have had some great finds with her. But I'm looking towards the futhure. O rings for the electrical box are pretty none existance. It still like new shape to me. But I'm thinking of replacing her. Looking at the Garrett Sea hunter ii, another Pi machine. But i'm open to other newer machines . I did look at a Nox 600 and a 800. But I have heard not so good things about them, Batteries are hard to get, some leak. The big one i'm looking at is the Excaluber 2. But there again I read a lot of not so good things for a machine in that price range. Knobs break off easy, Battery life isn't that good. They need a lot of constante maintenance. I don't own one , it's what I read. not knocking the machine. I would appreciate othere's insite. Thanks.
 

jim tn

Well-known member
Might want to check into these two fairly new offerings. Both made in the USA.

Fisher "Impulse Limited." And, Tarsacci MDT 8000. There is a good bit of info on these two machines on the Tom D forum. HH jim tn
 

Joe Black

Active member
The Excalibur is an excellent machine...The only issues I’ve had with them is the coil jacket will split down the road at some point. Yes, the knobs could be a little better though!..The after market kind work great as replacements....The Excalibur has awarded me with my best finds out of all machines I’ve ever owned.....I’m talking about gold finds....It goes plenty deep too!
 

OldBeechnut

Active member
I've owned a few excaliburs 12 years now, still love them. Now a Fisher AQ Limited.. owner, Love it as much as the excalibur but Its for limited spots since it's a PI....also once they get the small
8 inch coil for it out I think It will be move versatile......
I had a sea hunter several years ago, once I figured out PP/Almetal on the excalibur I seen the excalibur was a better machine ...for me.
As far as Bang for the buck
I don't think you can match the Nox...Not a ruff water machine but wetsand/drysand/ and a occasional dunk I think it would be a good choice. One thing on the Nox..you sell a million of them and there are going to be more broken ones then any other machine...due to the amount made and sold.
I've seen some impressive numbers with the MTD's Performance...Price 1500.oo I believe...Maybe Dew will chime in on it...

Have you checked MacMaster Carr for custom....O rings? They have kits you can make your own ..Or they can make them for you...
 

hunter12

Member
Thanks, I check with Mcmaster- Carr.
 

u2robert

Well-known member
I had a PI unit one summer I really loved digging bobby pins, leaders, & lead sinkers 13" deep
 

ColonelDan

Member
I don't think you can match the Nox...Not a ruff water machine but wetsand/drysand/ and a occasional dunk I think it would be a good choice.
I agree with OBN on this. I've used many different machines on the beach to include an ATX PI. Our sand here in Central Florida is not that mineralized that a PI is a necessity. Besides, I don't like digging down 18 inches for a bobbi pin. The EQX suits my needs very well. If I want to go more than knee deep in the surf, I'll use my Excal. I conservatively consider my EQX as more water resistant than waterproof.
Just the view from my beachy foxhole
 

Joe Black

Active member
I agree with OBN on this. I've used many different machines on the beach to include an ATX PI. Our sand here in Central Florida is not that mineralized that a PI is a necessity. Besides, I don't like digging down 18 inches for a bobbi pin. The EQX suits my needs very well. If I want to go more than knee deep in the surf, I'll use my Excal. I conservatively consider my EQX as more water resistant than waterproof.
Just the view from my beachy foxhole
I agree with your opinion on those two machines . Well said!
 

Mkus

Well-known member
Friend has a Fisher Impulse man does he dig a lot of rusty bottle caps!
 

hunter12

Member
Thanks for all the imput. I was reading and watching videos of the Nokta Simplex being used in dry sand and wet sand and also the surf.For $ 250 ish or $340 ish for the WHP. you cant beat the price. Ha sanyone had expeirance using this machine. I like somethings on it but somethings don't sound good. Like the batteries life expectancy, Sending it back to them to be replaced. Plus it's made i Turkey. You never know when they can turn belly up. Pros and cons appreciated.
 

wltdwiz

Active member
minelab vanquish 340- 440
an inexpensive option but not waterproof
i have a Excalibur 2 for that
 

Joe Black

Active member
Thanks for all the imput. I was reading and watching videos of the Nokta Simplex being used in dry sand and wet sand and also the surf.For $ 250 ish or $340 ish for the WHP. you cant beat the price. Ha sanyone had expeirance using this machine. I like somethings on it but somethings don't sound good. Like the batteries life expectancy, Sending it back to them to be replaced. Plus it's made i Turkey. You never know when they can turn belly up. Pros and cons appreciated.
It works fine on the medium and larger sized gold ( wet sand) but, not the smaller sized gold. You will be forced to use beach mode which will automatically eliminate (notch out) smaller gold or low conductive targets . You can try other modes but, again it’s a single frequency unit and you will have to drop the sensitivity down in order to stabilize unit . You will lose some depth for sure. It works fine in the dry sand though. If you plan on hunting the salt water beaches often , get a real machine that works for that purpose. Don’t disadvantage yourself!
 

galwayboy

Member
I've used the Simplex and Kruzer at beaches. They were quite and I didn't find I had to turn down sensitivity more the one to keep them quite. Still using the Simplex now. The Kruzer didn't seem to like nickels, but the Simplex and Anfibio do. I'd get the Anfibio for its better versatility and customization and because the Simplex doesn't like many pinpointers other than the Pulsedive (which I own too).

Nokta/Makro have been in business for a while and their customer service has been the best I've experienced. They also have a repair center in the US. A few years before they had their r. center, I had a problem with my older orange Nokta pinpointer. After I emailed them a video showing the issue, they sent me a new one from Turkey in 2-3 days via DHL, that's crazy fast.

That being said, I've recently bought an EQ600 and am keeping the Simplex as well. Now I have two different types of machines that I can play with, both waterproof (the Simplex is rated to 16ft, not 10 like the EQ). The Noktas also have proper waterproof headphone connections.

Have fun with whatever you choose!
 

mrcolin2u

Member
I have a Tesoro Sand Shark , It's a great machine, I have had some great finds with her. But I'm looking towards the futhure. O rings for the electrical box are pretty none existance. It still like new shape to me. But I'm thinking of replacing her. Looking at the Garrett Sea hunter ii, another Pi machine. But i'm open to other newer machines . I did look at a Nox 600 and a 800. But I have heard not so good things about them, Batteries are hard to get, some leak. The big one i'm looking at is the Excaluber 2. But there again I read a lot of not so good things for a machine in that price range. Knobs break off easy, Battery life isn't that good. They need a lot of constante maintenance. I don't own one , it's what I read. not knocking the machine. I would appreciate othere's insite. Thanks.
I had aFisher CZ20 that I used in salt water and was a great machine, it paid for itself many times over !! For the last 5 years I used an Excel II and again I have had no problems only fantastic finds underwater . You can't go wrong with either one.
People that have problems tend to complain and post about the problems but the rest of us usually don't post and say " Hey my Excel didn't leak today " we just use our machines and bring home the goods !
 

mrcolin2u

Member
I had aFisher CZ20 that I used in salt water and was a great machine, it paid for itself many times over !! For the last 5 years I used an Excel II and again I have had no problems only fantastic finds underwater . You can't go wrong with either one.
People that have problems tend to complain and post about the problems but the rest of us usually don't post and say " Hey my Excel didn't leak today " we just use our machines and bring home the goods !
I meant EXCALIBUR II !
 
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