rarysgaard
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Please post your screen. That would be helpful. Thanks for sharing. I almost eclusively hunt trashy parks looking for jewelry and love my 6" excelerator coil and the 5.5"Sunray. Both work great and get very impressive depth.
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OK, let's get some posts going on finds & techniques . . . . here's one to start the ball rolling
- Thread starter Andy Sabisch
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You made me go back and look McDean.
This is another one of those moments, that to a newbie could be confusing when in the early learning curve stage with the E-Trac.
The picture above with a 06-39 was in fact a 1908s Indian Head less than 3 inches deep.
I was right over the top of the target and sometimes on a shallow one, you're machine will just set there and bounce and false off the target. Depth readings might be jumping 2", 8", 5", and just "hop" around until you get your coil off of it. Most of the time it is something like a shallow can or similiar.
I think this one is my Episode V video.
NebTrac
This is another one of those moments, that to a newbie could be confusing when in the early learning curve stage with the E-Trac.
The picture above with a 06-39 was in fact a 1908s Indian Head less than 3 inches deep.
I was right over the top of the target and sometimes on a shallow one, you're machine will just set there and bounce and false off the target. Depth readings might be jumping 2", 8", 5", and just "hop" around until you get your coil off of it. Most of the time it is something like a shallow can or similiar.
I think this one is my Episode V video.
NebTrac
utahshovelhead
Active member
Just a note, If you are having trouble with a shallow target then just scroll down the sens for a few minutes while you work on it and the signals will calm down. OR you can just get used to picking up the coil and pretend the shallow target is deep. he he. In most cases for me the dirt has to be disturbed to have both old and new coins in the shallow range so I will go over the area with a mild sensitivity then back over it with the machine set up for the deep seeking magic.
Lucky guess nebtrac 
Nice recovery! And goes to show you can't always trust the depth meter, but most of us know that LOL curious but what's your preferred threshold pitch setting? I like anywhere between 1 and 8... lower pitch seems to give more variability on tones...
Also, normal, smooth, long, or pitchold?
Dean
Nice recovery! And goes to show you can't always trust the depth meter, but most of us know that LOL curious but what's your preferred threshold pitch setting? I like anywhere between 1 and 8... lower pitch seems to give more variability on tones...
Also, normal, smooth, long, or pitchold?
Dean
McDean said:Lucky guess nebtrac
Nice recovery! And goes to show you can't always trust the depth meter, but most of us know that LOL curious but what's your preferred threshold pitch setting? I like anywhere between 1 and 8... lower pitch seems to give more variability on tones...
Also, normal, smooth, long, or pitchold?
Dean
Dean,
I've always had my pitch set at 20 and used Normal. I've been going to experiment with some lower settings on the pitch in my garden. I'm afraid its going to be like going to a Minelab mode. I don't like getting away from what I'm familiar with.
NebTrac
utahshovelhead
Active member
Does any one else find a lower pitch gives more resonance or variablity? Im going to try that a bit to check it out.
1goldsniper
Member
i have a ? On Andy's pattern example A) 00-03 Does this include 03 or exclude it? D) 00-08 does it include 08 or exclude it? I hope someone will be able to help. Thank You
NebTrac said:McDean said:Lucky guess nebtrac
Nice recovery! And goes to show you can't always trust the depth meter, but most of us know that LOL curious but what's your preferred threshold pitch setting? I like anywhere between 1 and 8... lower pitch seems to give more variability on tones...
Also, normal, smooth, long, or pitchold?
Dean
Dean,
I've always had my pitch set at 20 and used Normal. I've been going to experiment with some lower settings on the pitch in my garden. I'm afraid its going to be like going to a Minelab mode. I don't like getting away from what I'm familiar with.
I prefer normal too, seems to seperate better for me. Pitchold is just as sharp but it gets too noisy and seems to lag the response in trash
NebTrac
1goldsniper
Member
Thanks for the info!
Nebtrac,
I agree with you on "normal" setting... very good for seperation in trashy areas... smooth might come in handy on a field with few targets as it gives a wider field of detection. To me, pitchold is just annoying, although for certain applications it may be useful and I haven't really messed with long tones...
What about everyone else? What's the preferred audio setting and why?
HH. Dean
I agree with you on "normal" setting... very good for seperation in trashy areas... smooth might come in handy on a field with few targets as it gives a wider field of detection. To me, pitchold is just annoying, although for certain applications it may be useful and I haven't really messed with long tones...
What about everyone else? What's the preferred audio setting and why?
HH. Dean
OhioCoinHunter
New member
Nice hunting, Andy. Congrats on pulling more keepers from your old sites. Hope you get more time to hunt and post. HH
Nebtrac, Andy and others,
I'm pretty new to the ET, have read Andy's book, communicated with Andy and read as much as I could find to get up to speed as fast as possible. Based on Andy's coin pattern, all though I cannot auto load the pattern via exchange due to Apple machines, I plan on manually entering it as best as possible, as I see Andy was kind enough to break it down by co and fe to help with this.
I think in high trash areas with very bad ground, I'm having the most problems understanding what the machine is trying to tell me and understanding falsing from trues. I've bounced back and forth between Multi and TTF in these hunts trying to figure out which is better for me. I'm currious as to your thoughts regarding this and any thoughts on discrim patterns to be used in TTF only to help falsing, understanding that the less discrim in this mode the better as it speeds up the separation process.
I'm pretty new to the ET, have read Andy's book, communicated with Andy and read as much as I could find to get up to speed as fast as possible. Based on Andy's coin pattern, all though I cannot auto load the pattern via exchange due to Apple machines, I plan on manually entering it as best as possible, as I see Andy was kind enough to break it down by co and fe to help with this.
I think in high trash areas with very bad ground, I'm having the most problems understanding what the machine is trying to tell me and understanding falsing from trues. I've bounced back and forth between Multi and TTF in these hunts trying to figure out which is better for me. I'm currious as to your thoughts regarding this and any thoughts on discrim patterns to be used in TTF only to help falsing, understanding that the less discrim in this mode the better as it speeds up the separation process.
EtracTom-AdirondacksNY
New member
I run my threshold pitch at 5 or 10 and it does help to make the sounds more spaced or pronounced for my ears. At the standard 15 setting the sounds were too high for my hearing. Sounded like screeching to me.
the book says running sens in auto pluss 3 three will give you more falses and worse Target ID,,,, running lower you get less falses and better ID,,,,dunno cuz my machine won't be here until wed.,,, I know everyone likes auto pluss three but it contradicts the booklomoch said:
Andy Sabisch
Active member
The difference between MANUAL and AUTO is that the detector will adjust itself as conditions change in AUTO while it remains set where you had it otherwise. In AUTO, the setting it selects with the offset at "0" is a level where the falsing or erratic operation is minimized but in doing so, it may select a value that may not give optimal detection depth in areas where mineralization is not super high or where it does not change much. It is in these areas that AUTO + 3 will be teh option that gets you more depth with some loss of target ID accuracy simply from the slightly more erratic nature at that setting. If there is not a lot of deep rusted iron or rapidly changing mineralization or waves on an ocean beach, then this is the preferred setting to use. On the other hand, if you are getting falsing and back readings from iron, dropping it from the +3 setting to something else - even as far as -3, will give you better responses and hence more targets at the end of the day. Look at the example of hunting the old fairgrounds site in the book where I ran at a negative offset on sensitivity - that was the trick to unlock the site and make a number of finds that would have been missed at a +3 setting.
Anyone else have an opinion on this?
Andy Sabisch
Anyone else have an opinion on this?
Andy Sabisch