Hi all, pointer80 here. Well I have'nt hung out much on this forum, most of my time was on the whites V3i forum. I finally gave up on the V3i and sold it and now waiting for my e-trac(backed ordered). I just ordered andys book to read while I wait. looking foward to a new and I hope better experiance with my new detector. Once again looking foward to talking to you all. pointer80.